[NSRCA-dist8] Red Apple Pattern Contest

Wed May 21 14:19:07 AKDT 2014

Gordon,
  Would like to but it looks like Redmond will be my first contest this year.
          Bob W

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gordon Anderson 
  To: Gail & Robert Walker ; AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Red Apple Pattern Contest

  Bob, are you coming to the red apple?

  Gordo

  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 21, 2014, at 10:18 AM, "Gail & Robert Walker" <grbwii at comcast.net> wrote:

    Gee Pat,
      And you kept telling me I was sloppy when I was actually flying it right:-)
                       Bob W
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Patrick Harris 
      To: AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY 
      Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:15 AM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Red Apple Pattern Contest

      Gentlemen,,

      We have a very important judging issue that needs to be addressed. In the June K Factor proof, the Judging Committee took a reversed stance on how a few FAI maneuvers are to be judged. I will go over this at Wenatchee for the folks that don't receive this email. Here is the article:

      For this month’s column we have a few important clarifications to 
      make for certain FAI maneuvers. We learned of these issues from 
      the F3A Sub-committee chairman at the AOC F3A Competition 
      in Thailand. We then did some research with our compatriots 
      in Europe and the rest of the world. We decided it was very 
      important to align ourselves with the rest of the FAI community 
      in the world and to get this information out as quickly as possible 
      so that all of our pilots and judges could digest this before our 
      Nationals and Team Selection event in July. 
      First, for the FAI Golf Ball maneuver (P15 and F15) we have stated 
      that the rolls on the 45° up/down lines must be centered on the 
      line segments AND centered on the center pole. After carefully 
      looking at the geometry and drawing a lot of pictures we realize we 
      were mistaken! The rolls MUST be centered on the line segments 
      that they are contained in, this might or might not mean that the 
      rolls will be centered on the center pole. In several “normal” loop 
      size drawings that we have made, they are not centered on the 
      center pole, they are offset slightly. Depending on the radius of the 
      loop segments the rolls can properly occur before, at or after the 
      intersection of the two line segments. As judges we must simply 
      verify that the roll element is in the center of the line segment 
      that contains it. Of course the apex of the ¾ loop segment must 
      be over the center pole for proper centering of the maneuver.

      The second clarification concerns the Double Immelman 
      maneuver that is in both the P15 and the F15 sequences. Under 
      AMA rules a Double Immelman maneuver is defined as a square 
      with half loop segments on each end and that is the way we have 
      been writing about and recommending judging these maneuvers 
      in FAI. The FAI maneuver however is defined differently; it has no 
      express relationship between the horizontal line segments and 
      the half loop diameter. Thus, this maneuver can be wider than it 
      is tall or taller than it is wide with no geometry downgrade. Bear 
      in mind though that other downgrades we have mentioned are 
      still applicable, rolls must begin immediately after loop segments, 
      loops must be round with no flat spots, etc…
      The third clarification is closely related to the second. This 
      concerns the center Top Hat maneuver in P15. In AMA rules a 
      center Top Hat is defined as 3 legs of a square. That is the vertical 
      legs must be equal to the horizontal leg. Again, the FAI rules do 
      not state this. Therefore, in FAI, a center Top Hat shall have both 
      vertical legs the same length but there is no required relationship 
      to the horizontal leg. I.e. it can be wide and short or tall and skinny 
      with no geometry downgrade as long as the vertical legs are the 
      same length.

      We hope that this clarifies the proper judging of these maneuvers 
      for you. Please remember, these clarifications are for FAI only! The 
      AMA rules require that a center Top Hat be 3 sides of a square 
      and a Double Immelman be a square with half loop segments on 
      each end when flown in an AMA pattern class.
      Remember; never take your eyes off the plane when judging… 
      Keep your wings level!

      See you guys in a few days.

      Pat

      On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:48 AM, J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net> wrote:

        Thanks Gordon. I forgot all about pre-registering.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Gordon Anderson
        Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:09 AM
        To: AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY
        Subject: [NSRCA-dist8] Red Apple Pattern Contest

        This Memorial Day weekend is the D8 Pattern season opening contest held in Wenatchee Washington. You can find all the details on the NSRCA we site at this link: http://nsrca.us/index.php/d8-contest-schedule/2014

        If you plan to attend this contest please register using the link provided on the NSRCA web site. This helps us accelerate the contest setup.

        If your flying FAI you will want to checkout this link for details on how this class is flown in D8: http://nsrca.us/index.php/d8-contest-schedule/contest-details

        Hope to see you in Wenatchee this weekend!

        --Gordon

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