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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gordon,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Would like to but it looks like Redmond will
be my first contest this year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial> Bob
W</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=gaa@owt.com href="mailto:gaa@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=grbwii@comcast.net
href="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net">Gail & Robert Walker</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org">AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Red Apple
Pattern Contest</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Bob, are you coming to the red apple?</DIV>
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<DIV>Gordo<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On May 21, 2014, at 10:18 AM, "Gail & Robert Walker" <<A
href="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net">grbwii@comcast.net</A>>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gee Pat,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> And you kept telling me I was sloppy
when I was actually flying it right:-)</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial>
Bob W</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=harris7148@gmail.com href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com">Patrick
Harris</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org">AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:15
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Red Apple
Pattern Contest</DIV>
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<DIV>Gentlemen,,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>We have a very important judging issue that needs to be addressed. In
the June K Factor proof, the Judging Committee took a reversed stance on
how a few FAI maneuvers are to be judged. I will go over this at Wenatchee
for the folks that don't receive this email. Here is the article:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>For this month’s column we have a few important clarifications
to </DIV>
<DIV>make for certain FAI maneuvers. We learned of these issues
from </DIV>
<DIV>the F3A Sub-committee chairman at the AOC F3A Competition </DIV>
<DIV>in Thailand. We then did some research with our
compatriots </DIV>
<DIV>in Europe and the rest of the world. We decided it was
very </DIV>
<DIV>important to align ourselves with the rest of the FAI
community </DIV>
<DIV>in the world and to get this information out as quickly as
possible </DIV>
<DIV>so that all of our pilots and judges could digest this before
our </DIV>
<DIV>Nationals and Team Selection event in July. </DIV>
<DIV>First, for the FAI Golf Ball maneuver (P15 and F15) we have
stated </DIV>
<DIV>that the rolls on the 45° up/down lines must be centered on
the </DIV>
<DIV>line segments AND centered on the center pole. After
carefully </DIV>
<DIV>looking at the geometry and drawing a lot of pictures we realize
we </DIV>
<DIV>were mistaken! The rolls MUST be centered on the line
segments </DIV>
<DIV>that they are contained in, this might or might not mean that
the </DIV>
<DIV>rolls will be centered on the center pole. In several “normal”
loop </DIV>
<DIV>size drawings that we have made, they are not centered on
the </DIV>
<DIV>center pole, they are offset slightly. Depending on the radius of
the </DIV>
<DIV>loop segments the rolls can properly occur before, at or after
the </DIV>
<DIV>intersection of the two line segments. As judges we must
simply </DIV>
<DIV>verify that the roll element is in the center of the line
segment </DIV>
<DIV>that contains it. Of course the apex of the ¾ loop segment
must </DIV>
<DIV>be over the center pole for proper centering of the maneuver.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>The second clarification concerns the Double Immelman </DIV>
<DIV>maneuver that is in both the P15 and the F15 sequences.
Under </DIV>
<DIV>AMA rules a Double Immelman maneuver is defined as a
square </DIV>
<DIV>with half loop segments on each end and that is the way we
have </DIV>
<DIV>been writing about and recommending judging these
maneuvers </DIV>
<DIV>in FAI. The FAI maneuver however is defined differently; it has
no </DIV>
<DIV>express relationship between the horizontal line segments
and </DIV>
<DIV>the half loop diameter. Thus, this maneuver can be wider than
it </DIV>
<DIV>is tall or taller than it is wide with no geometry downgrade.
Bear </DIV>
<DIV>in mind though that other downgrades we have mentioned
are </DIV>
<DIV>still applicable, rolls must begin immediately after loop
segments, </DIV>
<DIV>loops must be round with no flat spots, etc…</DIV>
<DIV>The third clarification is closely related to the second.
This </DIV>
<DIV>concerns the center Top Hat maneuver in P15. In AMA rules
a </DIV>
<DIV>center Top Hat is defined as 3 legs of a square. That is the
vertical </DIV>
<DIV>legs must be equal to the horizontal leg. Again, the FAI rules
do </DIV>
<DIV>not state this. Therefore, in FAI, a center Top Hat shall have
both </DIV>
<DIV>vertical legs the same length but there is no required
relationship </DIV>
<DIV>to the horizontal leg. I.e. it can be wide and short or tall and
skinny </DIV>
<DIV>with no geometry downgrade as long as the vertical legs are
the </DIV>
<DIV>same length.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>We hope that this clarifies the proper judging of these
maneuvers </DIV>
<DIV>for you. Please remember, these clarifications are for FAI only!
The </DIV>
<DIV>AMA rules require that a center Top Hat be 3 sides of a
square </DIV>
<DIV>and a Double Immelman be a square with half loop segments
on </DIV>
<DIV>each end when flown in an AMA pattern class.</DIV>
<DIV>Remember; never take your eyes off the plane when
judging… </DIV>
<DIV>Keep your wings level!</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>See you guys in a few days.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Pat</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:48 AM, J N Hiller <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net"
target=_blank>jnhiller@earthlink.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT color=navy face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks Gordon. I forgot all
about pre-registering.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black
face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gordon
Anderson<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:09 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA,
WY<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[NSRCA-dist8] Red Apple Pattern Contest</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This
Memorial Day weekend is the D8 Pattern season opening contest held in
Wenatchee Washington. You can find all the details on the NSRCA we site
at this link: <A
href="http://nsrca.us/index.php/d8-contest-schedule/2014"
target=_blank>http://nsrca.us/index.php/d8-contest-schedule/2014</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If
you plan to attend this contest please register using the link provided
on the NSRCA web site. This helps us accelerate the contest
setup.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If
your flying FAI you will want to checkout this link for details on how
this class is flown in D8: <A
href="http://nsrca.us/index.php/d8-contest-schedule/contest-details"
target=_blank>http://nsrca.us/index.php/d8-contest-schedule/contest-details</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hope
to see you in Wenatchee this weekend!</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
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style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">--Gordon<BR><U></U><BR><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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