[NSRCA-dist8] Classic Pattern

Wed Feb 19 15:11:47 AKST 2014

My nickel's worth is:

.40 to .60 size designs comparable to models designed prior to those
designed specifically for electric power. This is not to say electric power
is not allowed, it specifically is, but the airplane's original design must
have been for "wet" power. 

I never flew non-turn-around pattern, but vintage models are vintage models
and certainly we can agree anything originally designed primarily for
electric power is not vintage.  

Ray

From: Patrick Harris [mailto:harris7148 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:41 PM
To: Gail & Robert Walker
Cc: Ray Gauthier; AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Rudy; Rick Bergeron;
alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder; Gary McClellan
Subject: Re: Classic Pattern

Bob,

Under the laid out guide line, I would say Yes it would be OK, but the
intent is to keep it to Old School. To me a 3D ARF of modern design does not
fit the "Old School" criteria. This stuff isn't in stone so we can still
adjust as we go. Any thoughts from everyone on how to write this is most
appreciated. Like Jim, said we don't want to alienate anyone, but we do need
some sort of guideline.

Pat

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Gail & Robert Walker <grbwii at comcast.net>
wrote:

Pat,

  Just checking, but would that mean that I could use my electric
Katanna(SP)? You say it fly at Dusters the other day. I would have to tone
the throws down a bit, but it seems to fit your specs?

              Bob W

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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: Classic Pattern

Very cool 

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Raymond C. Gauthier
<rc.gauthier at comcast.net> wrote:

A pic of the Dalotel is attached.  Pretty cool eh?

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I'm hoping I have something old hanging in the garage that would fill the
bill.  I know I have a scale French aerobatic airplane, a Dalotel, which is
the right size and pretty much in flyable (wet power) condition.  When I'm
back in town I'll have to dig it out and see how it flies the Novice
pattern.

Ray

From: Patrick Harris [mailto:harris7148 at gmail.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:53 PM
To: Ray Gauthier

Cc: AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Bob Walker; Rudy; Rick Bergeron;
alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder; Gary McClellan
Subject: Re: Classic Pattern 

Ray,

Yes. By saying 60 size that pretty much limits you to pre 80's planes. Are
we going to turn away a guy that walks up with a little Osiris? The way it's
written, no we wouldn't turn him away, but I think this is going to be a non
issue or infrequent if at all. . We need to keep this real simple and have
fun.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Raymond C. Gauthier
<rc.gauthier at comcast.net> wrote:

Does no year restrictions mean any airplane that fits the size and power
guidelines?

From: Patrick Harris [mailto:harris7148 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:47 AM
To: AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Bob Walker; Ray Gauthier; Rudy;
Rick Bergeron; alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder; Gary McClellan
Subject: Classic Pattern

Just a quick update. I have had a few question from a couple of CD's in
regards to Classic pattern this year. The bottom line is we do this is to
have fun and we don't want to load this up with a bunch of rules. 

Long story short, here are the only criteria. Keep in mind we will likely
tweak this as we go:

No year restrictions

60 class planes or smaller

6 cell maximum for electrics

That's it. We will fly two schedules this year which are Novice and Advanced
which can be found here;

http://www.classicpatternassociation.com/uploads/CPA_call_card.pdf

At some of our contest we will fly classic Saturday and Sunday in the
mornings due to sun issues (Woodburn, Redmond). At fields like Molalla that
we can fly turnaround by 8:00, we will fly classic on Saturday after
turnaround and it's the discretion of the CD to fly classic on Sunday. My
guess is for those fields we will fly classic on Saturday only to get guys
on the road Sunday.  

Also, Gordon has been at it again with a great new feature on the D8 site.
No longer will you have to search in vane for upcoming events to preregister
on the NSRCA calendar. All you will need to do is click on the 2014 schedule
on the D8 site and you will find an info link and a link to the calendar for
preregistration. By the way, it is a great help to the CD"s and Gordon to
preregister to all contest you plan to attend. Again, my thanks to Gordon.
Without him, we wouldn't be where we are.  

If you have questions or concerns, email or give me a call.

503-454-0381

Pat

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