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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>My nickel’s worth is:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>.40 to .60 size designs comparable to models designed prior to those designed specifically for electric power. This is not to say electric power is not allowed, it specifically is, but the airplane’s original design must have been for “wet” power. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>I never flew non-turn-around pattern, but vintage models are vintage models and certainly we can agree anything originally designed primarily for electric power is not vintage. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>Ray<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Patrick Harris [mailto:harris7148@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Gail & Robert Walker<br><b>Cc:</b> Ray Gauthier; AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Rudy; Rick Bergeron; alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder; Gary McClellan<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Classic Pattern<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Under the laid out guide line, I would say Yes it would be OK, but the intent is to keep it to Old School. To me a 3D ARF of modern design does not fit the "Old School" criteria. This stuff isn't in stone so we can still adjust as we go. Any thoughts from everyone on how to write this is most appreciated. Like Jim, said we don't want to alienate anyone, but we do need some sort of guideline.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Pat<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Gail & Robert Walker <<a href="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net" target="_blank">grbwii@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Pat,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Just checking, but would that mean that I could use my electric Katanna(SP)? You say it fly at Dusters the other day. I would have to tone the throws down a bit, but it seems to fit your specs?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Bob W</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank" title="harris7148@gmail.com">Patrick Harris</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" target="_blank" title="rc.gauthier@comcast.net">Ray Gauthier</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" title="nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org">AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY</a> ; <a href="mailto:bburden1959@gmail.com" target="_blank" title="bburden1959@gmail.com">Brad Burden</a> ; <a href="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net" target="_blank" title="grbwii@comcast.net">Bob Walker</a> ; <a href="mailto:whyRudy@comcast.net" target="_blank" title="whyRudy@comcast.net">Rudy</a> ; <a href="mailto:ribergeron@comcast.net" target="_blank" title="ribergeron@comcast.net">Rick Bergeron</a> ; <a href="mailto:a_wellentin@yahoo.com" target="_blank" title="a_wellentin@yahoo.com">alan wellentin</a> ; <a href="mailto:afkelly25@gmail.com" target="_blank" title="afkelly25@gmail.com">Arthur F. Kelly</a> ; <a href="mailto:BC3662@aol.com" target="_blank" title="BC3662@aol.com">Bill Carder</a> ; <a href="mailto:gary@raystowing.com" target="_blank" title="gary@raystowing.com">Gary McClellan</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:21 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: Classic Pattern<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Very cool <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Raymond C. Gauthier <<a href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" target="_blank">rc.gauthier@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>A pic of the Dalotel is attached. Pretty cool eh?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>__________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>I’m hoping I have something old hanging in the garage that would fill the bill. I know I have a scale French aerobatic airplane, a Dalotel, which is the right size and pretty much in flyable (wet power) condition. When I’m back in town I’ll have to dig it out and see how it flies the Novice pattern.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>Ray</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Patrick Harris [mailto:<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank">harris7148@gmail.com</a>] </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ray Gauthier<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Cc:</b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Bob Walker; Rudy; Rick Bergeron; alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder; Gary McClellan<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Classic Pattern <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ray,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yes. By saying 60 size that pretty much limits you to pre 80's planes. Are we going to turn away a guy that walks up with a little Osiris? The way it's written, no we wouldn't turn him away, but I think this is going to be a non issue or infrequent if at all. . We need to keep this real simple and have fun.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Raymond C. Gauthier <<a href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" target="_blank">rc.gauthier@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#943634'>Does no year restrictions mean any airplane that fits the size and power guidelines?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Patrick Harris [mailto:<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank">harris7148@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Bob Walker; Ray Gauthier; Rudy; Rick Bergeron; alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder; Gary McClellan<br><b>Subject:</b> Classic Pattern</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just a quick update. I have had a few question from a couple of CD's in regards to Classic pattern this year. The bottom line is we do this is to have fun and we don't want to load this up with a bunch of rules. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Long story short, here are the only criteria. Keep in mind we will likely tweak this as we go:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No year restrictions<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>60 class planes or smaller<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6 cell maximum for electrics<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>That's it. We will fly two schedules this year which are Novice and Advanced which can be found here;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.classicpatternassociation.com/uploads/CPA_call_card.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.classicpatternassociation.com/uploads/CPA_call_card.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>At some of our contest we will fly classic Saturday and Sunday in the mornings due to sun issues (Woodburn, Redmond). At fields like Molalla that we can fly turnaround by 8:00, we will fly classic on Saturday after turnaround and it's the discretion of the CD to fly classic on Sunday. My guess is for those fields we will fly classic on Saturday only to get guys on the road Sunday. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Also, Gordon has been at it again with a great new feature on the D8 site. No longer will you have to search in vane for upcoming events to preregister on the NSRCA calendar. All you will need to do is click on the 2014 schedule on the D8 site and you will find an info link and a link to the calendar for preregistration. By the way, it is a great help to the CD"s and Gordon to preregister to all contest you plan to attend. Again, my thanks to Gordon. Without him, we wouldn't be where we are. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you have questions or concerns, email or give me a call.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="tel:503-454-0381" target="_blank">503-454-0381</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Pat<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="99%" noshade style='color:#909090' align=center></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0in 11.25pt 0in 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.avast.com/" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3D4D5A'>This email is free from viruses and malware because <a href="http://www.avast.com/" target="_blank">avast! 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