[NSRCA-dist8] Senior Division

Tue Oct 2 13:27:48 AKDT 2012

Since Gordon said its basically a matter of reporting couldn't we do both
and call
number 3 the "Bluehair Trophy" and number 2 the "Senior Bluehair Trophy".

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So now that most of you have had a while to think about this, here are the
> options.
>
> "1" Leave the system as is
>
> "2" Set our system up as IMAC does with a "Seniors Division" only
>
> "3" Set up our system per "Seniors Division",  but open to all ages.
>
> "4" Integrate both.
>
> If we go with "3", what do we call it?
>
> Ideas...input
>
> Pat Harris
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Dennis Cone <patternpilot25 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Well I used Linda's iPhone and it made me 120. I like mine better.
>>
>> Sent from my Xoom using Ice Creme Sandwich
>> On Sep 26, 2012 8:23 PM, "Gordon Anderson" <gaa at owt.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Dennis,
>>>
>>> You must be counting your age base 16, or maybe you are using that
>>> samsung not so smartphone to figure out your age... dude, get an iPhone!
>>>
>>> --Gordon
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Dennis Cone <patternpilot25 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well I guess this just leaves me out. I won’t be 55 for a few more years.
>>> ****
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Senior Division****
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>>>
>>> But I'm so young!    ...and shy
>>>
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>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Dennis Cone" <patternpilot25 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "&apos;AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY&apos;" <nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Subject: [NSRCA-dist8] Senior Division
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:24 am****
>>> ** **
>>> Age handicap? That’s not fair. It gives Rex a big lead.****
>>>
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>>> trexlesh at msn.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:30 PM
>>> *To:* AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Senior Division****
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Mind your elders, young man!
>>>
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>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "astropuppy" <astropuppy at gmail.com>
>>> To: "AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY" <nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Subject: [NSRCA-dist8] Senior Division
>>> Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 8:16 pm****
>>>
>>> For the record, even though I am *younger* then Rex; I will be 55 next
>>> year.****
>>> ** **
>>> Another idea would be to use pilot age for handicapping. Something
>>> simple: Calculate the adjusted score by taking flight percentage as Pat
>>> outline then multiplying it times the pilots age. ****
>>>  ** **
>>> Mike ****
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com> wrote:***
>>> *
>>> Pat,****
>>> ** **
>>> I agree, it adds another element of competition and all it takes is a
>>> little more reporting. I see no reason not to do it, you should write up
>>> the idea and send it to Rex to publish in the K-Factor! Other districts may
>>> want to try the same thing.****
>>> ** **
>>> --Gordon****
>>> ** **
>>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>> Gordon,****
>>> Actually Mike's idea has a lot of merit as well. By including all ages,
>>> it creates a contest within a contest. Besides, It's the only way I'll ever
>>> be able to beat Alex! For most of the year, Dick flying Sportsman by
>>> himself, would of had a chance to beat guys in all other classes, Pretty
>>> interesting.****
>>>  ****
>>> Pat****
>>>  ****
>>>  ****
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com> wrote:***
>>> *
>>>  ****
>>> Pat,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>> This would be pretty easy to do. I think I can easily add this to the
>>> existing program. I will work on this and have it ready for next season,
>>> its basically just a reporting issue, the only new data I need is age.**
>>> **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>> Cool idea.****
>>> ** **
>>> --Gordon****
>>> ** **
>>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:****
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> At the Richland contest, I discussed with a few attendees, the
>>> possibility of introducing a Seniors Division into our events such as IMAC
>>> does.****
>>>  ****
>>> Some of you may be aware of a gentleman by the name of Ron Smith (AKA
>>> Captain Kaos).  Ron has been around the pattern scene for many years (thus
>>> the AKA name). Ron was instrumental in working with IMAC to set up the
>>> current Seniors Division, first introduced a few years ago in the IMAC
>>> Pacific Northwest District. IMAC has now rolled out this program on a
>>> nationwide basis.****
>>>  ****
>>> I have been in contact with Ron and he is excited at the possibility of
>>> introducing a similar program into Pattern. Ron has stressed he will be of
>>> help in any way he can.****
>>>  ****
>>> The mechanics of this program are very straight forward. First off, IMAC
>>> uses age 55 or older as their cutoff (I think that pretty much includes all
>>> of us). In a nutshell, what they do is use the “percentage of possible
>>> points” per round compared to all other competitors’ scores. By doing this,
>>> you are competing with all other contestants, regardless of their class. So
>>> in other words, if a Sportsman flew a round and received 75% of the total
>>> points available for that class, he would finish higher versus a Master’s
>>> pilot scoring 74% of the total points available.****
>>>  ****
>>> Gordon’s spreadsheet is already calculating a “percentage of points”, so
>>> I trust it would not be too difficult to integrate it into our system.
>>> ****
>>>  ****
>>> Following is the info off the IMAC web site that should clear up any
>>> confusion I may have created:****
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Starting in 2009, we are introducing the *“IMAC Senior Points Series”. *This
>>> series is open to any IMAC member who competes in any IMAC Regional Points
>>> Series (IRPS) contest, in the Sportsman thru Unlimited class and is
>>> fortunate enough to be *55 years* of age or older at the start of any
>>> IRPS contest. (Sorry kids, you will just have to wait a few more years.)
>>> This series, held in the NW region since 2004, has been a great success and
>>> is now expanding to all IMAC regions.****
>>>
>>> At each contest throughout the flying season, the Senior Competition is
>>> held *in conjunction* *with* your normal IMAC class. Scores are based
>>> on the pilots percentage achieved against the maximum possible raw score
>>> for their class. You are flying against other Senior pilots in Sportsman
>>> thru Unlimited classes.****
>>>
>>> For example, the 2009 Sportsman sequence has a total of 2,210 points
>>> available per judge per sequence; with 2 judges this equals 4,420 points.
>>> If the pilot’s raw score is 3,536 points that is 80.00% of the available
>>> points. If an Unlimited Senior pilot scores 75.00% of his available points,
>>> the sportsman pilot wins that particular sequence. These percentage scores
>>> are calculated in the scoring program automatically and normalized against
>>> all other Senior pilots by round. Standard formats for throw-out sequences
>>> and normalizing are still the same.****
>>>
>>> There are no additional fees, sequences, or rounds flown and you are *
>>> still* competing in your normal IMAC class. All points, placements
>>> and/or trophies you earn for your class are still awarded. The host club
>>> has the option to award a 1st place Senior award if they choose, but it
>>> is not mandatory*.*****
>>>
>>> Entering the Senior Competition is the eligible pilot’s choice and is
>>> not mandatory, however, if you decline to join, your points are not
>>> retroactively applied later in the year. Once you join then the region will
>>> keep your scores for the year.****
>>>
>>> At the end of the regular season in each region and just like the
>>> regular Regional Points Series, the Senior Points Series winners for the
>>> season will be awarded first through third place based on their top five
>>> contests (normalized - as in the regular class regional points standings
>>> and ties will be settled in the same manner).****
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