[NSRCA-dist7] NSRCA-dist7 Digest, Vol 86, Issue 13

Mon May 2 13:10:26 AKDT 2016

Sorry to hear that. I am glad you tried.

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Frackowiak Tony <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Tried that. I got yelled at, called a profanity, and then hung up on.
>
> Tony
>
> On May 2, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Bill Polits via NSRCA-dist7 wrote:
>
> I'd recommend that for the benefit of the district this conversation
> should be taken off of email, especially group email, and on to the
> telephone.
>
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>>    1. Re: Championship Points and Methods (Jon Bruml)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:35:23 +0000
>> From: Jon Bruml <jon at techstyles.com>
>> To: Robert E Fish <akmotov at pacbell.net>, Frackowiak Tony
>>         <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>, "CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT"
>>         <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Championship Points and Methods
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>> Jonathan Bruml
>> Techstyles Sportswear
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>> https://www.facebook.com/TechstylesSportswear>
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>> From: Robert E Fish [mailto:akmotov at pacbell.net]
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:27 AM
>> To: Jon Bruml <jon at techstyles.com>; Frackowiak Tony <
>> frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>; CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT <
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>; CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT <
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Championship Points and Methods
>>
>> The real "bullshit" here is the continued obfuscation of the facts to
>> mask the continued disrespct for BMF's rights to conduct their business to
>> protect their membership, and the continued elitist cover for the single
>> malfeasant that is the root of the problem to begin with. Yuo are only as
>> good as the company that you keep, and it looks like a swarm of flies are
>> heading your way.
>>
>> Woof.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jon Bruml via NSRCA-dist7 <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> To: Frackowiak Tony <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net<mailto:
>> frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>>; "CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT" <
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 10:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Championship Points and Methods
>>
>> There is no wondering why people aren?t interested in pattern
>> Just look at the email traffic in D7 for the past few weeks
>>
>> Most intelligent sporting souls would run from this type of shit as fast
>> as they can
>>
>> Maybe if the email traffic was about the HOBBY and not the personalities
>> people might be attracted to the HOBBY
>> The only thing attracted to bullshit are flies
>>
>> Jonathan Bruml
>> Techstyles Sportswear
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>> https://www.facebook.com/TechstylesSportswear>
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>> From: NSRCA-dist7 [mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf
>> Of Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-dist7
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 9:46 AM
>> To: CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Championship Points and Methods
>>
>> So, with the retaining of the requirement for 4 contests for the Champs,
>> and the elimination of points from the upcoming BMF contest, which was just
>> to try to help out after your contest was cancelled, plus no points for all
>> BMF contests in the future, it will now be even harder for people of more
>> limited means to compete for the District Champs. How does that make it a
>> "level playing field" for them?
>>
>> I guess it's no problem when you have the means to go to all the events
>> you want, along with the Nats each year. Not only financially but when you
>> can always travel in a group sharing the load. Not often the case when
>> you're just getting in to pattern. I'm also lucky to have good friends that
>> help me attend contests. Otherwise I could only go to contests that I run
>> or I can return home easily to stay the night.
>>
>> And people wonder why the entrant counts at our contests continue to
>> dwindle. Or why there are 19 Masters in a 35 entrant contest.
>>
>> Still waiting for my return call, Jon.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On May 2, 2016, at 8:24 AM, joncarter60 via NSRCA-dist7 wrote:
>>
>> I also am in agreement with Dale's points. It is simply about having a
>> "level playing field" for the district championship.
>>
>> Jon Carter
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S? 6 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Budd Engineering via NSRCA-dist7 <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org
>> <mailto:nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> Date: 5/2/2016 8:15 AM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Olstinske Dale <sanjosedale at gmail.com<mailto:sanjosedale at gmail.com>>,
>> "CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT" <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Championship Points and Methods
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 2, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Olstinske Dale via NSRCA-dist7 <
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I love the BMF contests, one of the highlights of the year. I would
>> always attend in any event, but I support John?s decision about district
>> championship points. I really doubt the attendance would be hurt in anyway,
>> just my opinion.
>> >
>> > Dale
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On May 1, 2016, at 4:20 PM, John Bentley via NSRCA-dist7 <
>> nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This is NOT an attack on the Bear Mountain Club/Tony/Leon, (read my
>> original
>> >> post)  It is a statement of policy, in that  every  and ALL members of
>> the
>> >> NSRCA and AMA should be able to compete in the district
>> championships.  Did
>> >> anyone actually read my proposal???? . There should for pilots with the
>> >> exception of legal actions due to NSRCA or AMA never be an exclusion
>> to this
>> >> policy.
>> >> I have never said that anyone could not have a contest, however for
>> that
>> >> contest to be valid there can be no exclusions of pilots that are in
>> good
>> >> standing with AMA and NSRCA  There will be NO more personal attacks
>> nor more
>> >> personal vendettas.  This is only about out district policy and
>> nothing else.
>> >> John Bentley
>> >>
>> >> 30 Apr 2016 04:58:39 PM MST
>> >> From: John Bentley via NSRCA-dist7 <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org
>> <mailto:nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> >> To: <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> >> Subject: [NSRCA-dist7] Championship Points and Methods
>> >>
>> >> All NSRCA D7 Members. It has come to my attention that members in good
>> >> standing with AMA and NSRCA are unable to fly at a contest site.
>> Because of
>> >> this, from this point  no district championship points will be
>> assigned at
>> >> any
>> >> contest that excludes a member that is in good standing with AMA and
>> NSRCA.
>> >>
>> >> Now on the discussion about the Championship. The overall consensus is
>> that
>> >> there should be a single Championship and that Championship should
>> move to
>> >> different sites within D7. In all fairness  since 4 contests have been
>> flown
>> >> there will be no change in how points are determined for the 2016
>> contest
>> >> season.
>> >>
>> >> I have heard lots of talk on how the points are awarded . Here is my
>> thought
>> >> in how the contest(S) could be more competitive:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Use 3 contests for qualification. Each pilot will be awarded 33
>> points for
>> >> attendance plus 1 point for each person they beat in the contest.
>> >> One contest can be used from out of district however that contest can
>> not
>> >> have
>> >> any points given that is larger than the largest D7 contest
>> attended.As an
>> >> example if a pilot attended the NATS and beat 30 people but their
>> largest
>> >> class in D7 was 18 they could only be awarded 18 points extra not 30.
>> >> 2. The championship Contest will  count as 100 points plus 1 point for
>> each
>> >> person beat.
>> >>
>> >> 3.The method for the calculation will be announced no later than Jan 1
>> 2017
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
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