[NSRCA-dist7] Championship Points and Methods

Jon Bruml jon at techstyles.com
Sun May 1 08:26:35 AKDT 2016


Wasn't it just a few years ago tony was all but banned from BMF?
The suggestion is all about fairness as it relates to pattern
Not about personal vendettas

Jonathan W. Bruml
Techstyles Sportswear




On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:18 PM -0700, "Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-dist7" <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Chris,

Another thing. We are talking about someone who was removed from a USA F3A World Champs Team because of his actions. Sometimes you have to pay the piper.

Tony

On Apr 30, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-dist7 wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I am not happy that I had to say these things. But John would not take my calls when I tried to call him after he sent his email. I just feel not many know or have even bothered to find out what the facts are regarding the issues. I feel that they have probably been mislead by a master of deception. This is not a matter of not liking somebody. It's a matter of outright financial damages that could not be tolerated any further.
>
> Unless a considerable effort is made to right the wrongs, I don't see anything changing at BMF. Nor do I think they should.
>
> Tony
>
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Chris Fitzsimmons wrote:
>
>> I feel part of this shouldn't have been mentioned here... Maybe that's just me...
>>
>> Leon is a nice guy. I never had an issue with him.. Love flying at bear mountain...
>>
>> So would chip be banned from a district championship at bear mountain Tony? Or will we not hold it there again to make things fair so that all have a chance at a district championship? Just curious... Not taking sides. Just wondering. Hell, maybe people that don't care for me will ban me from contests..
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-dist7 <nsrca-dist7 at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Most know you are only talking about one club and one person. The Bear Mountain Flyers and Chip Hyde.
>>>
>>> So with this decision you are going to potentially penalize both the club and contestants because the club unanimously voted to ban him from the field. That was a club vote of over 20-25 members present at the meeting. Does anybody wonder why a club membership would make such a decision about a member? I won't go in to details but it was several actions that hurt both the club and several of it's members. These actions have been well documented and are not up for question. They occurred.
>>>
>>> As to the AMA, they have said all along that they have no requirement to force a club to allow entrance to the field someone who has been barred for a contest. None. It is for the most part very rare that someone is banned from a field. But it has happened at other clubs and it happened here. The bottomline is that the AMA has no desire to make BMF allow Chip on the field for a contest.
>>>
>>> There are a number of clubs and an even smaller number of CD's that make pattern in this district possible by allowing the use of their facilities for our events. I hope everyone who attends a contest realize that they are guests of the club. I was involved with Leon and the BMF club just about at it's inception. Leon had a dream of a premier facility for pattern and IMAC fliers to have a place to fly and hold events. Due to his hard work and the assistance of many others, his dream has come true. I think everyone who has been to the numerous events run there would agree that it is a great facility. Except for the time when Chip got in between my friendship with Leon, I have always enjoyed BMF. For the NSRCA to try to force Leon and BMF to go against their decision regarding Chip is to me disgusting. Especially with zero discussion between NSRCA officers and BMF officers. Ridiculous.
>>>
>>> I wish I could tell the entire story of what Leon did for this person. After the 2011 Worlds in Muncie Chip was hit with Non-Payment of Child Support to the tune of $140K. His passport was taken, his truck was impounded. He was stuck in Phoenix with no place to live. Leon and others went to Phoenix, took him to Bakersfield, Leon took him in to his home. Other BMF fliers loaned him a vehicle. Leon so purely helped this person that when I tried to warn Leon of actions he has done and was doing at the time, Leon got mad at me because he wouldn't hear it about his friend Chip. Caused a very real rift that has just been repaired the last few months. I won't go in to the details of what Chip did to Leon and BMF but if you want to know just ask me privately. But I can tell you they were very real and very serious.
>>>
>>> I can tell you that what the NSRCA has decided to do won't stop Leon and BMF from holding their fine events at their beautiful field. I am proud to support Leon and the club in whatever way I can. But it does make me reconsider why I would be a member of an organization that awards poor behavior and punishes integrity.
>>>
>>> Tony Frackowiak
>>>
>>>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 4:58 PM, John Bentley via NSRCA-dist7 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All NSRCA D7 Members. It has come to my attention that members in good
>>>> standing with AMA and NSRCA are unable to fly at a contest site. Because of
>>>> this, from this point  no district championship points will be assigned at any
>>>> contest that excludes a member that is in good standing with AMA and NSRCA.
>>>>
>>>> Now on the discussion about the Championship. The overall consensus is that
>>>> there should be a single Championship and that Championship should move to
>>>> different sites within D7. In all fairness  since 4 contests have been flown
>>>> there will be no change in how points are determined for the 2016 contest
>>>> season.
>>>>
>>>> I have heard lots of talk on how the points are awarded . Here is my thought
>>>> in how the contest(S) could be more competitive:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Use 3 contests for qualification. Each pilot will be awarded 33 points for
>>>> attendance plus 1 point for each person they beat in the contest.
>>>> One contest can be used from out of district however that contest can not have
>>>> any points given that is larger than the largest D7 contest attended.As an
>>>> example if a pilot attended the NATS and beat 30 people but their largest
>>>> class in D7 was 18 they could only be awarded 18 points extra not 30.
>>>> 2. The championship Contest will  count as 100 points plus 1 point for each
>>>> person beat.
>>>>
>>>> 3.The method for the calculation will be announced no later than Jan 1 2017
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
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