[NSRCA-dist1] Disabling slow start feature in JR WV servos

bmwjoon . bmwjoon at gmail.com
Sat Jan 14 12:24:59 AKST 2017


Ed, I'm not a JR guy but I'm pretty sure you do it in the servo screen of
an XG radio.  I believe for the radio to configure the servo, the servo has
to be in the XBUS of the receiver.

As far as I know JR does not make any kind of external configurator like
Hyperion or other manufacturers have for their servos.

Hope that helps !

Joon

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Ed Alt via NSRCA-dist1 <
nsrca-dist1 at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
> Does anyone have the instructions on how to disable the slow start feature
> in the JR WV servo series?  I've got the MP91S MKII and MP31SWV servos.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ed
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
> behalf of Jay Marshall via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.
> org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:35 PM
> *To:* 'Anthony Romano'; 'General pattern discussion'
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 -
> Culture - What are we missing?
>
>
> In my limited experience, the majority of club flyers haven’t even heard
> of NSRCA or pattern flying….
>
>
>
> *Jay Marshall*
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Anthony Romano via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:32 PM
> *To:* blotch44026 at mypacks.net; General pattern discussion; Randy Forbus;
> David Harmon
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 -
> Culture - What are we missing?
>
>
>
> This is great incite to an area I know nothing about. The NSRCA has had a
> lot of discussion about promotion with little result. The idea of a
> committe to focus on promotion is a great one and we will be reaching out
> to both of you shortly.
>
>
>
> Anthony
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>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® S2
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>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.
> org>
>
> Date: 1/14/17 12:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Randy Forbus <Rforbus at hotmail.com>, General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, David Harmon <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>,
> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 -
> Culture - What are we missing?
>
>
>
> From my perspective charging for it does not seem to be increasing
> membership either.
>
>
>
> Offering the K-Factor as an online free resource is an opportunity to open
> up the NSRCA community to a potentially larger audience via content
> marketing. Its an opportunity to promote the sport and the NSRCA in ways
> that are not possible at this time.
>
>
>
> The ability for sharing information from the site to site via article
> postings, article feeds to other marketing channels such as social media
> and email broadens your reach into other markets you might not reach
> otherwise. The ability to reach an audience from desktop, tablet and mobile
> brings a rich experience to the reader. Articles are still easily printable
> if that's your preference.
>
>
>
> Search engine marketing is another way to help push out your brand to an
> audience that's unreachable currently. Paid search marketing would be
> another marketing opportunity. Its simply getting as many eyeballs on your
> brand as possible.
>
>
>
> It offers a broader market for your advertisers, and allows you to feed
> real numbers to them from site analytic's to track advertising success.
> With site metrics you can determine how much traffic is coming in, and with
> that you can determine what its worth to an advertiser to place an ad on
> your site....etc. More traffic brings more opportunity for a sale to them
> and in turn you can charge appropriately. Remember your going to reach many
> more readers than current K-Factor closed membership provides*.*
>
>
>
> Having said all of this, the success or failure with this approach will be
> the content providers, the editors who publish articles. The content has to
> be what the market wants to read and needs to be of good quality. With no
> real publishing deadline it will make it easier for content writers to
> publish information at their own pace allowing them to spend more time on
> it and will take pressure off of the monthly deadline. You really do not
> need to have an article written once a month from each district. As long as
> you have at least one or two new articles published per week you are going
> to satisfy the readership. Your pushing out information that is of interest
> to your potential market, it really does not matter what district it's
> coming from. Contest results can have its own category per district for
> those that are interested in that.
>
>
>
> This is definitely a big step and a new approach for the NSRCA. It would
> be prudent to survey the current membership and determine if this makes
> sense to them before adding this strategy to a committee.
>
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Forbus via NSRCA-discussion
> Sent: Jan 14, 2017 7:30 AM
> To: David Harmon , General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 -
> Culture - What are we missing?
>
> Why not give it free for 30 days, if people want to join the NSRCA, they
> will or they wont, don't think a free Kfactor will increase membership.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
> behalf of David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.
> org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:36 AM
> *To:* 'General pattern discussion'
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 -
> Culture - What are we missing?
>
>
>
> I understand the intent….but as time goes on I hope we will have enough
> members to pay for the free to the world K-Factor.
>
>
>
> *David Harmon*
>
> *Sperry, OK*
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Campbell via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2017 3:54 PM
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 -
> Culture - What are we missing?
>
>
>
> +1 to Providing the K-Factor to everyone for free.  I'm certain the
> K-Factor advertisers will appreciate it as well.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rob
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>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:21 PM, blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Larry’s point concerning patterns popularity at a
> time when growth was based on “we wanted to be one of them”. And I also
> agree the problems faced is defining and selling the product and ourselves.
>
>
>
> My first year of competing was the first year of all turn-around so I only
> have a historical perspective from that time forward. NSRCA membership at
> the time was well over one thousand members. It was a feel good, positive
> experience to support our Sig. Membership had a real sense of forward
> movement for the most part even though pattern had just taken a hit when
> turn-around was introduced. As someone who never experienced the old
> patterns, I was well aware of them as I followed pattern a few years before
> I entered the arena. Marveled at Hanno and so forth.
>
>
>
> For me, I found turn-around pattern a refreshing change as it introduced
> new and exciting technologies, schedules, and still does in my opinion.
>
>
>
> The culture through the years seems to have changed somewhat and that
> positive forward momentum or perception of it, has faded a bit. I re-joined
> after a 12 year lay off and the membership seemed disgruntled for various
> reasons and most notable, a feeling of being closed out, even some
> officers. Bad deal, bad for NSRCA.
>
>
>
> All we need is a few good men...The NSRCA has to be a positive experience
> for membership. Voices need to be heard and discussion needs to be open and
> honest.  A creed, if you will.  NSRCA members need to feel that it’s worth
> giving up some time for, a worthy cause. Members need to feel that being a
> part of the NSRCA is something special again.
>
>
>
> Once you fix the culture, there is no better marketing tool than word of
> mouth. NSRCA members will once again spread the good word and discuss our
> sport and the NSRCA in a positive light to others, and that is contagious.
> It worked on me.
>
>
>
> My early pattern years were influenced by guys like Dave Von Linsowe, Jeff
> Combs, Dave Patrick, Bill Cunningham, Ivan and Chip, just to name a few.
> Top flyers at the time. In the early days meeting and listening to them at
> workshops or the Nats or discussing pattern with any one of these guys left
> you with a sense of professionalism and integrity to the sport, and you wanted
> to be a part of it*.* I remember when getting prepared for the Nats was a
> huge deal for me, and wanting to do well in front of these guys and others
> like them was a driving force that I enjoyed very much. It was a real sense
> of pride when I got a nod from one of them.
>
>
>
> I am not seeing a magic bullet here, it's gonna take time to re-build.
> Make positive change one step at a time and keep the membership in the loop
> at all times. Make membership feel a part of it. Grow together.
>
>
>
> Now, let's get the K-Factor in a FREE for everyone, open online market,
> allowing discussion and free flowing ideas. It's our best tool to promote
> and grow pattern again in a positive, professional light. It's our biggest
> marketing tool besides the members themselves.
>
>
>
> If there is interest, it's what I do for a living, Online Marketing, be
> glad to help out.
>
>
>
> Rick Sweeney
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion
> Sent: Jan 11, 2017 10:37 PM
> To: 'General pattern discussion'
>
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 - Culture -
> What are we missing?
>
> Before Christmas, I posted an email challenging our culture as a concern
> that prevents or limits growth in pattern.
>
>
>
> My intent here is to spark discussion by offering my opinion, which is
> only an opinion. A healthy debate on our culture as a SIG may be a good
> thing.
>
>
>
> I stated that our culture hasn’t changed since I joined the NSRCA in 2003.
> Peter’s e-mail below and the Hardcopy K-Factor thread is a perfect example
> of how our culture has not kept up with the times.
>
>
>
> Peter’s email below, and Ron Hansen’s, in the discussion ask a very basic
> question that I don’t believe we as a whole have come to terms with:
>
>
>
> *What is in it for “me” to be a member -and- participate in contests?*
>
>
>
> It is too easy to say, “it’s the people… They aren’t willing to put in the
> time, they aren’t willing to invest, they are not competative in nature…”
>
>
>
> For me, that is not the answer to the problem. I’m not sold that this is
> the reason. It is a symptom, but not the root-cause. The problem we face in
> growing pattern is selling our product, “Pattern”. Yet, before we can sell
> our product, we must understand what is it today.
>
>
>
> When pattern was popular, it was because many of us were struck by
> somebody who was flying pattern and “*we wanted to be one of them*”. I
> don’t see this happening today other than hit and miss.
>
>
>
> Culture… Example… We want to take the hardcopy K-Factor away and only
> limit access to a server base distribution mechanism that further limits
> our audience. Why?, to save money for the NSRCA. I am perplexed and I say
> what??? Is not the NSRCA a non-profit organization? Is increased membership
> not the most stable way to generate funds? No?, its advertisers you say…
> Didn’t somebody state that we are losing advertising dollars because the
> businesses are not seeing the benefit from members? Is this concern not
> related to the NSRCA membership population as a whole?
>
>
>
> From my point of view, it is all connected to our culture.
>
>
>
> My recommendation is for the NSRCA Board to pull a committee together to
> address the growth issue. We seem to discuss this every year. We also seem
> to hover around the same membership population issues. Other than some
> select folks giving a different spin at their contest, there is not much of
> a push.
>
>
>
> I am a bit skeptical about the premise of another club class being the
> answer to the growth problem. I am in agreement with those that believe
> that is why we have the Sportsman class.
>
>
>
> Only my opinion, I could be wrong…
>
>
>
> What are your thoughts?????
>
>
>
> Larry Diamond
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2017 3:13 PM
> *To:* Ron Hansen <rcpilot at wowway.com>; General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hardcopy K-Factor
>
>
>
> The "What are the benefits" question comes up a lot.  So much so, that
> Charlie wrote an excellent article which you can find on the NSRCA.us web
> site in the "new pilot info" section.  The important stuff is reproduced
> below:
>
>
>
> We are a Special Interest Group (SIG) in the AMA. *The NSRCA advances our
> interests to the AMA*. The AMA represents all modelers within the
> organization, but without our voice being heard, our segment of the hobby
> would be forgotten, or at the very least not addressed. Many of you who
> attend the Nationals (NATS) may not know that the AMA had initially
> assigned the 2016 Precision Aerobatics NATS, to begin on July 5 th .
> Because of the 4 th of July holiday, and because of the usual travel
> involved by many to attend the NATS, this date was not acceptable. The
> NSRCA immediately protested, and the contest date was changed to July 10th.
>
>
>
> Our purpose is best stated by the following:
>
> *“a. Act as a focal point for rules development and progression. Gather
> intelligence from the AMA precision aerobatics community to provide the
> basis for AMA rules change proposals.” *
>
>
>
> You may recall that last year the NSRCA made rules change proposals to the
> AMA, concerning telemetry, safety, specifically, electric motor arming,
> transmitter impound, transmitter failsafe, and weight. These rule changes
> were accepted by the AMA. These changes enhanced the safety of flying
> precision aerobatics.
>
> *“ b.  Promote precision aerobatics in the general R/C community by
> providing leadership in all of the objectives of the society."*
>
> *" c.  Enhance model precision aerobatics as a recognized sport."*
>
> *" d.  Develop and provide high standards in judging for competitions and
> provide qualifications and achievement recognition for judges.” *
>
>
>
> The *NSRCA sets standards for judging*. Judging precision aerobatics in
> District 1 is the same as in District 7. It is through the NSRCA judging
> committee that the yearly judging review is published.
> Judging recertification is free to members. (Of course non-members can also
> certify for a nominal fee.)
>
>
>
> *The KFactor magazine* – The KFactor is the identity of the NSRCA. It is
> published once a month. It is the life blood of your pattern community. The
> magazine can be downloaded directly from the web site, or mailed directly
> to you. The advent of digital download has greatly decreased publication
> costs. And because of this digital capability, our editor, Scott McHarg,
> has delivered the KFactor on time for several years. If it’s April 1st ,
> the KFactor is available!
>
>
>
> There are many interesting articles in the KFactor, whether how to build a
> particular pattern plane, or how to paint, or which color is best suited
> for good visibility. The KFactor also provides a means by which your DVP’s
> can communicate with their district members. Yes, they usually publish
> contest results as part of their reports. However, contest schedules
> are published before the beginning of the season. They may also offer a
> building article from time to time. If you have an interesting article that
> you would like to share with your pattern buddies, submit it to
> your respective DVP for publications.
>
>
>
> *The NSRCA web page* – The nsrca.us web page is your source for
> nformation in our pattern community. It offers contest results, KFactor
> access, sequences, judging, district news, and links to
> industry manufacturers. Your Board of Directors are in discussions on how
> to enhance our web page, and make it easier to navigate. Also, it has been
> suggested that a separate link on the web site be dedicated only
> to building articles. These articles will remain in this location
> indefinitely, for reference by our members. So, in summary, it is to your
> advantage to join (renew) your membership in the NSRCA. As you can
> see, there is a lot “in it for me”.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> What are the benefits of being a NSRCA member?
>
>
>
> You don’t need to be a member to participate in contests?
>
>
>
> I originally joined to get the Buyers Guide and the K-Factor.
>
>
>
> I didn’t start competing for several years after that.
>
>
>
> Couple of ideas I have is to go to quarterly newsletters and change our
> model for advertisers.  Perhaps each issue has coupons rather than just
> advertisements.  This would give companies feedback on how many people read
> and buy products advertised in the K-Factor and our website.
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> *On Behalf Of *James Hiller via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:02 PM
> *To:* 'General pattern discussion'
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hardcopy K-Factor
>
>
>
> Wow: I spent many years sitting in a desk chair in front of a PC. I'm happy
> with reading the K-Factor on my monitor.
> Paramount to my continuing is the notice Scott sends every month telling me
> it's ready for download. I save them in a folder and leave them open until
> I'm finished reading them, sometimes as long as 10 days.
> I wouldn't like to see a dues increase to cover hard copy cost for those
> that still want it and agree that a free copy may reduce membership.
> I'm here for the long run regardless of what is decided.
> Jim Hiller
> Spokane WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] On
> Behalf Of Tom Simes via NSRCA-discussion
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 2:53 PM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hardcopy K-Factor
>
> On 01/04/17 12:37, David Harmon wrote:
> > Tom...that is an interesting twist that I had not considered....but
> > then I have always been a proponent of a 'members only' email list.
> > However....I like the idea of letting other modelers know of our long
> > term existence....but not to give away the farm.
> > Perhaps a second email list for NSRCA members could be considered for
> > K-F push distribution only....keeping the open 'chat' list as it is
> > that does not support attachments.
>
> As far as list server support, I'm more than happy to accommodate whatever
> the community and BoD decides to do.  A minor point of clarification, the
> current NSRCA list configuration does allow attachments, but is size
> limited
> to 500 KB per message per community request.  Note that the request dates
> from when dialup was still common and people didn't want to wait 10 minutes
> to download a single message.
>
> That limit is easily configurable and I would have no issue bumping it up
> to
> allow low resolution .pdf distribution of the K Factor either on the
> existing -discussion list or on a dedicated list for K Factor distribution.
>
> --
> Tom
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