[NSRCA-dist1] Telemetry

[Anthony Romano]

Happy New Year Mike,
With the FPV racing clips popping up all over the web it will just be a matter of time before the aerobatic events are created. This is the kind of growth of this technology the NSRCA was trying to isolate. The sentence " Any telemetry communicated to the pilot or their caller used for competitive advantage is not allowed during competition." was intended to give some margin for growth of the technology but I am sure this rule will need to be revised again in the not too distant future.
Never flew FPV but I think aerobatics would make me very nauseous. How scary would a mid air be? 
Glad to see some discussion. Anyone have any feelings about the changes to the advancement rule? 
Anthony

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 09:04:50 -0500
To: vze23c3q at gmail.com; nsrca-dist1 at lists.nsrca.org
CC: learn2turn at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist1] Telemetry
From: nsrca-dist1 at lists.nsrca.org

 In my humble opinion, 

 The danger in allowing this type of an "arms race" is two fold, the spiraling cost witch can be prohibitive and also detrimental affect it may have on 
NSRCA to attract new folks to pattern.  Electronic complexity 
could also be a source for equipment malfunction and failure. This 
brings us to the "Spend more" to "Get more" argument and that seems to take us farther away from the origin and base intent of NSRCA and competitive  pattern flying in general. 

  It seems to me the main attraction to pilots is not to gain a big advantage because any advantage would be easily muted because everyone has access to the same equipment. It seems more so to a fascination with the technology and the "tinker" impulse we all seem to have. If folks really feel to need to add this technology to the game I say OK, that's fine, but it must be in a completely separate and easily identifiable category of airplane and classification,  ie. unlimited. This would be a place for those wishing to play with the tech and pit their ability to program little black boxes against each other. That sounds like to fun to me! 

Em I crazy, or does this sound logical? The clown that lives under my bed say so, LOL

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Scott Smith via NSRCA-dist1 <nsrca-dist1 at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
Completely agree, we don’t want the pilot having a different view point than that the judges, or vice-versa.  That could easily be regulated and enforced.  Without that explicitly called out, one could argue FPV is needed for safety purposes due to failing eye sight! Although that would be an interesting new event….do you think a pilot would be able stand through an entire sequence or would vertigo get the better of them? From: Dave Lockhart [mailto:DaveL322 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 8:08 PM
To: 'Scott Smith'; 'CT, DE, ME, MD, MA, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT'; learn2turn at yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [NSRCA-dist1] Telemetry Is FPV telemetry?  How about a HUD showing the flight path of the plane overlayed on a geometric box?  With incremental displays of each maneuver? No telemetry…other than for specific safety purposes. Regards, Dave From: NSRCA-dist1 [mailto:nsrca-dist1-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Scott Smith via NSRCA-dist1
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 5:58 PM
To: learn2turn at yahoo.com; 'CT, DE, ME, MD, MA, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist1] Telemetry I hear what you’re trying to say but don’t we labor over color schemes (well, not me) to provide info on attitude?  Don’t we listen intently to the prop noise to get clues on airspeed?  And callers whispering hints? I think the intent is the pilot fly the airplane.  Anything that introduces an automatic correction to a control based on onboard sensors (gyros, autopilots, GPS, altimeter, maybe timers, whatever) is what should be illegal. I say give the pilot as much data as they can process…as long as only they process it.  Telemetry is cheap and becoming standard fare, let’s embrace it!  Ken, I had a crazy year last year.  Both son’s each bought a house, a new granddaughter, my youngest graduated high school and went off to college…I’m lucky to have survived!  So I didn’t get a chance to meet you in 2014.  2015 is looking much better for pattern.  I am fortunate to represent D1 on the Aerobatics Board so I will be voting on your behalf (assuming you’re AMA D1).  Admittedly  I am stirring the pot a little to get a conversation going so I can hear your opinions.  Thanks for voicing yours! Scott  From: NSRCA-dist1 [mailto:nsrca-dist1-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of learn2turn via NSRCA-dist1
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 2:13 PM
To: nsrca-dist1 at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: [NSRCA-dist1] Telemetry I'm a newbie by my $0.02 on telemetry is anything that would provide info on flight characteristics-- altitude, attitude, airspeed, climb rate, g-force, etc. would certainly be against the spirit of flying the plane via manual controls based on VLOS POV.  I don't think it should be legal. -Ken K. 
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