[NSRCA-dist1] District Championship still something we do?

Tue Aug 19 14:35:03 AKDT 2014

One out of district contest can count towards district championship 
points. I believe it must also be an adjacent district.

As far as advertisement of contests. It is really up to the CD to make 
sure it is known. I know for my own contest it is published in Model 
Aviation, it was posted on RCU, it was put on the calendar on the NSRCA 
site and given to the District VP which was then placed on the D1 web 
page. There was also a listing of contests available at the NSRCA booth 
at the WRAMS Show. Don't remember if it was present on the D1 Facebook 
page. Frankly, I can't see much more a CD could do to advertise his 
contest other than posting it on RC Groups which I will do next year, as 
well as handing out flyers at earlier contests.
People forget that at one time the only way you knew about a pattern 
contest was to find it listed in Model Aviation.

I think we as CD's need to make this much an effort. Some do and some 
don't. I challenge my fellow D1 CD's to the same.

Also, procrastinating  for one reason or another about what datesto hold 
the contest hurts. We as CD's need to commit early in the year and lock 
our dates in the January - February timeframe.

I know I may have an issue next year regarding our clubs use of the 
field at the National Park. Hopefully our lease will get squared away 
early.
Joe Lachowski

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 04:36 PM, Dana Beaton via NSRCA-dist1 wrote:

Lucky, I’m not clear if this has been covered yet, but I believe that 
one of your contests outside D1 counts towards the district 
championship.  You might want to make sure that Jeff has the results 
from one of your contests ex-D1 if you placed favorably, so that he can 
count it towards the total.  This is business as usual as the DVP would 
not normally know where everybody in his district is competing outside 
the district in any given year.  If this has already been covered, so 
much the better.  Was good to see you flying so well at Penguin this 
past weekend, you will look sharp in that shirt, I wish you all the best 
for a successful conclusion to the season.  Dana

On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Anthony Romano via NSRCA-dist1 
<nsrca-dist1 at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-dist1 at lists.nsrca.org> > 
wrote:

Hi Lucky,

  I can appreciate your frustration and it is great you question these 
things. I felt the same way when trying get things moving in this 
district. Many unanswered emails were sent to ask CD to list their 
contest on the NSRCA site or send in the contest results. No one is more 
at fault than me since an urgent business trip kept me away from my own 
contest. 

  Not sure what the reason but we are a district in decline with a few 
determined pilots trying to keep it together. Please stick with us as we 
could certainly use your energy and enthusiasm to get us moving.

  I normally don't like to air dirty laundry in public but I am dragging 
this out there to see if we can do something about it.

Anthony 

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:46:02 -0400
Subject: Re: District Championship still something we do?
From: jhattonc at gmail.com <mailto:jhattonc at gmail.com>
To: luckymacy at hotmail.com <mailto:luckymacy at hotmail.com>
CC: spiurc at msn.com <mailto:spiurc at msn.com> ; anthonyr105 at hotmail.com 
<mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com> ; jlachow at hotmail.com 
<mailto:jlachow at hotmail.com>
The shoot out counts for d1 points
On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, lucky macy <luckymacy at hotmail.com 
<mailto:luckymacy at hotmail.com> > wrote:
Good Morning,
I have a some questions and comments.

Does this shootout count towards D1?  It's listed as a D2 contest in one 
area of NSRCA's website but the title implies that it could be 
applicable to D1.

Who's the chief in charge that should be able to clarify this?

Date: Saturday, August 30, 2014 08:00am - 05:00pm
D1/D2 Shootout 
<http://nsrca.us/index.php/list-events/eventdetail/230/-/d1-d2-shootout> 
 at Patuxent Aeromodelers (Helwig Field)
Please contact Archie Stafford - CD 301-247-9298
Event type: Contests - D2
Results URL: http://www.nsrca.us <http://www.nsrca.us/>

And some advice I'd like to give, get contest information out there MUCH 
better.  It's like finding a needle in a haystack sometimes.  There's a 
facebook page and an nsrca1 email distribution list that are essentially 
dead/stale and the NSRCA D1 info is not up to the standards of the other 
Districts I've looked at carefully this summer.

I want to go to the official nsrca website for info and know I'm not 
missing anything.  If I look at what should be the obvious place to go, 
the EVENTS/RESULTS tab which is FRONT and CENTER on the NSRCA home page, 
there is not one iota about the Cannadaguia or the apparently upcoming 
final D1 contest which is only found if I drilled down under the 
district areas (why should I have to know that info would be there and 
not in the darn place that's actually setup to be a calendar and contact 
area)....and when I do find it under the sub sub sub district area of 
the website, the information is LAME.  what's AGS?  What's Frank's 
contact info?  Where's the location?  Where's a website link to the 
club's homepage? I've competed in D2 and D4 this year and have to say 
they have MUCH better managed information and more novice friendly.  If 
you want to know why D1 participation is down, just look at how a newbie 
would perceive the effort to get information nor the lack of offers to 
hold sportsman pattern primers prior to a competition so newbies aren't 
embarrassed to show up at a contest cold as a couple of reasons why.  
Make information more logical, complete and consistent.  Have a better 
web presence on facebook, drum up some 'excitement', publicly celebrate 
success, etc.  It just comes across as a insider only, closed group...

Where's the D1 articles in K-factor?  When I competed in Toledo a couple 
of weekends ago I was asked if D1 pattern was healty since you can't 
tell from K-factor or our facebook page.  I didn't know what to tell 
them.

Compare  http://nsrca.us/index.php/d1-pattern-contests 
<http://nsrca.us/index.php/d1-pattern-contests>

AGS AllFrank Gioffredo September 20-21 

to  

http://nsrca.us/index.php/list-events 
<http://nsrca.us/index.php/list-events>   tell me why they shouldn't be 
identical and why they don't have more information.

OK, off my soapbox/rant.  Just frustrated actually 'trying' to get into 
D1 pattern and finding it too challenging at times.

thx,
lucky

I have senjt a request to thr cds to provide me with thr results to add 
up the points.   All sanctioned contests in the district will count 
towards the point total.
On Aug 15, 2014 9:31 AM, "lucky macy" <luckymacy at hotmail.com 
<mailto:luckymacy at hotmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks.  Since I see no evidence that any contest results have been 
turned anywhere for d1 this year how would we know what's being counted? 
 For example, we were told at the contest the Haverstraw results would 
count for sportsman but did it really?  Never saw the results posted.  

Thx,
Lucky
Sent from my iPad

On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:09 AM, "Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com 
<mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Lucky,

I forwarded your email to the District VP Jeff Hatton who manages the 
district points and Sal Pui who runs the website. Below is Jeff's 
response.
Have fun at Penguin! Unfortunately, I can't make it.

Anthony

Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:15:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Fwd: District Championship still something we do?
From: jhattonc at gmail.com <mailto:jhattonc at gmail.com>
To: anthonyr105 at hotmail.com <mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>
CC: spiurc at msn.com <mailto:spiurc at msn.com>

Yes, Jim Quinn gave oyt the shirts at the meeting during the wrams 
show.   I am collectung the points for this year to so the same.
On Aug 14, 2014 9:39 PM, "Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com 
<mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com> > wrote:

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

From: lucky macy <luckymacy at hotmail.com <mailto:luckymacy at hotmail.com> >
Date: August 14, 2014, 7:17:47 PM EDT
To: "jlachow at hotmail.com <mailto:jlachow at hotmail.com> " 
<jlachow at hotmail.com <mailto:jlachow at hotmail.com> >, 
"anthonyr105 at hotmail.com <mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com> " 
<anthonyr105 at hotmail.com <mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com> >
Subject: District Championship still something we do?

Hey Guys, hope you are packing up for the contest tomorrow.

I notice the nsrca website has not been updated since 2012 per the copy 
and paste below nor can I find out how I stand compared to the other 
sportsman in the District.  What's up with all that?  Who can tell me 
how I stand overall?

Also, what do you get for winning district?  I noticed last weekend in 
D4 they had cool polo shirts for previous district champions.

thx,
lucky

Past NSRCA DISTRICT-1 Champions
(Reminder: you must have been an NSRCA member in that year in order to 
be considered for district champion.)
 Year \ Class401 Sportsman402 Intermediate403 Advanced404  Masters406 
FAI1999Jim QuinnDave FunkDavid CepasChris DansereauDave 
Lockhart2000Frank GioffredoDan LandisFrank GranelliDavid CepasDave 
Lockhart2001Steve TeerlinkTodd SiegelDave ElsnerChris DansereauGeorge 
Asteris2002Art RiegelRick WallaceKen VelezEric HendersonDave 
Lockhart2003Joe ZeigenfusRon LawrenceRick WallaceJoe LachowskiDave 
Lockhart2004Scott WallaceScott SmithEd AltKen VelezDave Lockhart2005Bill 
MarkovitzJoe ZeigenfusScott SmithSteve MillerDave Lockhart2006Bruce 
GinnJohn PavlickRon LawrenceJoe LachowskiDave Lockhart2007David 
LampronCarl VeitRon LawrenceKen VelezDave Lockhart2008Neil HuntBruce 
GinnJoe ZeigenfusJoe LachowskiDave Lockhart2009Kosunin (Bert) 
KiatkachonDean LampronJoe ZeigenfusSteve MillerDave Lockhart2010Derek 
GioffredoJeff HattonRiley KissenberthJoe LachowskiDave Lockhart2011Dana 
BeatonBob MoulderJoseph ZigenfusJoe LachowskiDave Lockhart2012Dana 
BeatonFrank IacobellisCharles MoulderJoe LachowskiDave Lockhart      

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