[NSRCA-discussion] Flight Coach - your F3A coaching aid!

Tue Feb 16 15:32:38 AKST 2021

Jon,
I agree that a large problem with automated judging will be with novice
flyers.
Another huge roadblock seems to me to be the need for rule/criteria
change.  For example, a current rule might specify a downgrade of 1pt for
each radius change. When we go to automate judging, we need to put
numerical criteria in place:
How much radius change constitutes a change?  For how long does a radius
need to be "changed" before it constitutes a change?  What algorithm or
curve fit should be used to measure radii?
Ahhh..... someday

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:50 AM Jon Dieringer via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> This is super interesting and thanks for sharing this. I have been
> thinking about the "Automated Judge" problem for a bit and have been
> capturing telemetry data from RealFlight and analyzing those datasets in
> python. Nothing sophisticated yet but have been working on how to
> automatically score a 4 point roll. I think it's pretty straightforward for
> scoring top pilots who have minimal variations but lower classes (and
> trying to judge my 4 point roll haha) is a harder problem. I think I am
> going to try to convert my Realflight logging to support your file format
> and then try to base some of these scoring algorithms on that. It would
> give a next step towards trialing these algorithms with real data and also
> an opportunity to have people share their flights as training sets for
> these algorithms. Worst case scenario is people could analyze their
> realflight datasets using your tool.
>
> Thanks!
> Jon
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:30 PM Andrew Palmer via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anthony
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> We have no intentions to sell anything :-)
>>
>> We wanted to do something to help the precision flying community....
>>
>> We have released the software under an open source license - anyone is
>> free to modify as they wish :-)
>>
>> The ardupilot website has good information on hardware and getting up and
>> running....
>>
>> Thank you again for the kind words
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 17/02/2021, at 06:26, Anthony Romano <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Andrew,
>>
>> This is very cool! Thank you to your team for all of this work. I am sure
>> some will ask you if intend to sell a completed hardware package since many
>> would prefer to buy something complete. I look forward to the day that
>> something like this can be integrated into judging so we are no longer
>> reliant on the human recollection of what 45 degrees looks like.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
>> behalf of Andrew Palmer via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:50 AM
>> *To:* Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flight Coach - your F3A coaching aid!
>>
>> Please check under the setup tab on the website
>>
>> We give info to get a pixhawk mini and an omnibus f4 up and running
>>
>> But any ardupilot compatible board with gps and sd writer should do the
>> job... check the ardupilot website.....
>>
>> This is free, and aimed at enthusiasts - there will be a bit of a
>> learning curve....
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17/02/2021, at 04:54, Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I heard it has voice feedback . . . . . .     "Fix it . . . ."
>>
>>
>> Bob Kane getterflash at yahoo.com
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 10:08:54 AM EST, Scott McNickle via
>> NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, curious about the hardware required, didn't see any specifics at
>> first glance.
>>
>>
>> On 02/16/2021 9:54 AM Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is GREAT ! Does anyone know a link or video that goes through the
>> entire process of what to buy, how to set-up in aircraft, use of software
>> and etc ??
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
>> behalf of Andrew Palmer via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 1:48 AM
>> *To:* nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Flight Coach - your F3A coaching aid!
>>
>>
>> We would like to introduce Flight Coach. A new tool for recording and
>> analysing flight geometry aimed at the precision aerobatic disciplines F3A,
>> IMAC, F3M, F3C and F3S. Flight Coach utilises recent advances in flight
>> recording technology to provide high quality ribbon plots of your flights.
>>
>>
>>
>> The software is FREE to use! And almost any Ardupilot compatible hardware
>> (FC + GPS, with SDCard writer) can be used - you may already have the
>> hardware somewhere in your model shed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Flight Coach has been developed by a group of active F3A and IMAC pilots:
>> Artur Uzieblo, Thomas David, Andrew Palmer and Russell Edwards. The plotter
>> is free to use on our website and the hardware is low cost and widely
>> available.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have provided lots more information on how to get started on our
>> website, along with the plotter itself and a sample log file so you can try
>> it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.flightcoach.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMehdGWrUE
>>
>>
>>
>> Demo flight download link <https://flightcoach.org/ribbon/demo.json> (
>> https://flightcoach.org/ribbon/demo.json) right click on the link,
>> select “Save link as” and save this file to your PC, then open the
>> plotter <https://www.flightcoach.org/the-plotter/>
>> https://www.flightcoach.org/the-plotter/ (along the top menu of the
>> website <https://www.flightcoach.org/> https://www.flightcoach.org/),
>> select ‘Open Flight’ and load the saved file.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew and the Flight Coach team
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/flightcoach
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