[NSRCA-discussion] 2020 NATS Canceled

Vicente Bortone vincebrc at gmail.com
Fri May 15 04:43:34 AKDT 2020


We need to be realistic. I am 100% sure that any pattern contest including
the Nats and or US team selection won’t happen without the NSRCA be
involved.

Vicente “Vince” Bortone.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:24 AM John Decker via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Don,
>
> The AMA has been in the loop the entire time.
>
> John
>
> On Friday, May 15, 2020, 06:52:18 AM CDT, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> You make valid points.  I would hope the NSRCA leadership worked with AMA
> before making a decision and saying the NATS is canceled.  The NATS is an
> AMA contest not a NSRCA contest just as a local contest is generally an AMA
> contest.  Would you think it correct for NSRCA to cancel a local event and
> publish it as canceled without consulting the host?
>
>
>
> Don Ramsey
>
> AMA 6096
>
> NSRCA - Yes
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>
>
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Stephen Franc via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:29 PM
> *To:* Atwood, Mark; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2020 NATS Canceled
>
>
>
> So I guess the same rationale applies to the Free Flight and Control line
> and RC Scale competitions which have been canceled?   I certainly
> understand the concerns for the World Selection process...  But it sort of
> raises the question of why have/support the NSRCA?  If the leadership of
> our organization, after much discussion and consideration of current and
> projected limitations imposed upon us by the Coronavirus and mandated
> restrictions, came to the difficult decision of not participating in the
> NATS this year due to what hardships will be associated with attending
> (anticipated cost of putting on a poorly attended contest, lack of
> accommodations, lack of restaurants, anticipated judging difficulties and
> participation issues due to mandated social distancing, extremely late
> decision by the AMA to even host the outdoor NATS, etc.)  and this decision
> is just ignored by the AMA....  Then it must be time to disband the NSRCA
> due to its lack of recognition as a special interest group.   We've had
> districts leave the fold of the NSRCA in the past and they have survived...
> holding the same amount of contests, doing judging, giving out awards,
> etc.  Add to that the fact that you don't even need to be a NSRCA member to
> participate in NATS  (only AMA) then why are all these District VPs and
> elected officials of the NSRCA bothering to put in a lot of time and effort
> supporting the hobby of RC Precision Aerobatic flying.  To put on the NATS
> it still takes a lot of volunteers for  event CD, judges, score keeping,
> line bosses, etc.  Is the AMA planning on providing personnel to do all
> these functions?   Unfortunately not all districts have had adequate
> practice times for pilots to become proficient with the new sequences due
> to field closures, social districting, and localize executive orders by
> governors.  So in reality what level of competition will even be present if
> the AMA decides to proceed with this event.  The 2020 Pandemic NATS will
> need to have an asterix next to the Class winners to signify insignificant
> competition due to lack of participation. I believe everyone in the NSRCA
> has always promoted and supported the AMA.  Now its time for the AMA to
> recognize the NSRCA and get behind the NSRCA recommendation.
>
>
>
> Steve Franc
>
> AMA 633375
>
> NSRCA  4599
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>
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> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:35 PM Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> I hate to provide shallow hope, but I have it from the AMA that this is a
> bit of a mis-statement.  The NSRCA has elected not to participate in
> running the *AMA* Nationals, but the *AMA* has yet to cancel the *AMA*
> Nationals.  They are well aware of the effort involved to run one without
> the NSRCA, but as of now are seriously considering doing so.  If Indiana
> will permit it, they would prefer not to cancel their event.
>
>
>
> They (AMA) still plan to make a decision on June 10th.  This clearly adds
> a strong data point in their considerations, but I strongly hesitate to say
> it’s cancelled.  Moreover, if the AMA continues to go forward with the Nats
> in July, I would strongly suspect that the FAI Team selection committee
> would push to utilize that event for the F3A team selection.
>
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> On May 14, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Archie Stafford via NSRCA-discussion <
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> NOTICE: THE 2020 PRECISION AEROBATICS NATS HAS BEEN CANCELLED. From Archie
> Stafford : The board members and officers of NSRCA have unanimously voted
> to cancel the 2020 Precision Aerobatics Nationals.  This decision was made
> because of the uncertainty and risk  of the COVID-19 pandemic as well as
> time and financial constraints brought on by the virus to competitors and
> support staff.  We believe that this is both a logical and safe decision.
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> Thank you and stay safe.
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Vicente "Vince" Bortone
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