<div><div dir="auto">We need to be realistic. I am 100% sure that any pattern contest including the Nats and or US team selection won’t happen without the NSRCA be involved. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Vicente “Vince” Bortone. </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:24 AM John Decker via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Don,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The AMA has been in the loop the entire time.</div></div></div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">John</div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, May 15, 2020, 06:52:18 AM CDT, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="m_7542323361896394030ydpd3ef303yiv2155958040"><div><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Steve,</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">You make valid points. I would hope the NSRCA leadership worked with AMA before making a decision and saying the NATS is canceled. The NATS is an AMA contest not a NSRCA contest just as a local contest is generally an AMA contest. Would you think it correct for NSRCA to cancel a local event and publish it as canceled without consulting the host? </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Don Ramsey</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">AMA 6096</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">NSRCA - Yes</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div id="m_7542323361896394030ydpd3ef303yiv2155958040yqt80932"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Franc via NSRCA-discussion<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:29 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Atwood, Mark; General pattern discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2020 NATS Canceled</span></p></div><p> </p><div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">So I guess the same rationale applies to the Free Flight and Control line and RC Scale competitions which have been canceled? I certainly understand the concerns for the World Selection process... But it sort of raises the question of why have/support the NSRCA? If the leadership of our organization, after much discussion and consideration of current and projected limitations imposed upon us by the Coronavirus and mandated restrictions, came to the difficult decision of not participating in the NATS this year due to what hardships will be associated with attending (anticipated cost of putting on a poorly attended contest, lack of accommodations, lack of restaurants, anticipated judging difficulties and participation issues due to mandated social distancing, extremely late decision by the AMA to even host the outdoor NATS, etc.) and this decision is just ignored by the AMA.... Then it must be time to disband the NSRCA due to its lack of recognition as a special interest group. We've had districts leave the fold of the NSRCA in the past and they have survived... holding the same amount of contests, doing judging, giving out awards, etc. Add to that the fact that you don't even need to be a NSRCA member to participate in NATS (only AMA) then why are all these District VPs and elected officials of the NSRCA bothering to put in a lot of time and effort supporting the hobby of RC Precision Aerobatic flying. To put on the NATS it still takes a lot of volunteers for event CD, judges, score keeping, line bosses, etc. Is the AMA planning on providing personnel to do all these functions? Unfortunately not all districts have had adequate practice times for pilots to become proficient with the new sequences due to field closures, social districting, and localize executive orders by governors. So in reality what level of competition will even be present if the AMA decides to proceed with this event. The 2020 Pandemic NATS will need to have an asterix next to the Class winners to signify insignificant competition due to lack of participation. I believe everyone in the NSRCA has always promoted and supported the AMA. Now its time for the AMA to recognize the NSRCA and get behind the NSRCA recommendation.</p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"> </p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Steve Franc</p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">AMA 633375</p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">NSRCA 4599 </p></div></div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"> </p><div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:35 PM Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">I hate to provide shallow hope, but I have it from the AMA that this is a bit of a mis-statement. The NSRCA has elected not to participate in running the <b><i>AMA</i></b> Nationals, but the <b><i>AMA</i></b> has yet to cancel the <b><i>AMA</i></b> Nationals. They are well aware of the effort involved to run one without the NSRCA, but as of now are seriously considering doing so. If Indiana will permit it, they would prefer not to cancel their event. </p><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"> </p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">They (AMA) still plan to make a decision on June 10th. This clearly adds a strong data point in their considerations, but I strongly hesitate to say it’s cancelled. 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We believe that this is both a logical and safe decision. </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%"> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%">Thank you and stay safe. </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%"> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;line-height:115%">Archie Stafford - President NSRCA</span></p></div></div></div></div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></p></div></div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%"> </p></div></div><p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div id="m_7542323361896394030ydpd3ef303yqt53208">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div></div>
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