[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Question

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We may have to go back to the days when the AMA Comp. Regs. included sequences & descriptions to find these.  But I agree Stuart, and was thinking the same thing about having a Basic Maneuver Description reference.  Some of the named maneuvers are not descript, like "Comet", "Et", and even "Bunt".  It would avoid lengthy write-ups each time sequences are developed. 
For a basic Top Hat, I was taught this way in the 80's:  
1) Always have inverted horizontal lines, 2) Have equal length lines as center maneuvers3) Horizontal line length can vary as end maneuvers4) Can vary entry/exit altitude as end maneuvers


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From: Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
To: Daniel Underkofler via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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 As Chair of the sequence committee the intent was that the maneuver be square, equal horizontal and vertical.  I have searched for the maneuver descriptions that include that the horizontal segment of any top hat must be inverted and I I was unable to find that reference (everyone agrees on this point).  I  believe that there is also a reference to the line lengths on a center top hat maneuver being equal.  Pretty sure that they have always been so in the past.  If anyone can find that document that discusses top hats please let me know. I apologize for not including that downgrade in the maneuver descriptions.  (another vote for having a document with basic downgrades for each maneuver type for future sequence committees to use.) If not including the downgrade in the maneuver description changes the maneuver that was intended, I also apologize for the oversight. Stuart
  On 8/5/2020 9:06 PM, Daniel Underkofler via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
  
 I'm with Vince on the center top hat:  no symmetry is specified, so only up and down lines must be equal. I'm with Stuart on the end box top hat from top.  Turnaround maneuvers don't need to have equal entry and exit altitudes.  End box top hats need only have an identifiable line at top/bottom.  
  On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 4:05 PM Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
  
  Of course exit and entry altitude has to be equal.  Therefore both vertical lines have to be equal but not necessarily equal to horizontal line.   
  On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 5:01 PM Vicente Bortone <vincebrc at gmail.com> wrote:
  
  I believe there is no requirement if there is no description.    
    On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
  
     A judging question:   You are judging the Masters centered top hat.  Are there requirements for the length of lines?     _______________________________________________
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