[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Tue Dec 25 10:26:39 AKST 2018

My apologies, I was thinking of another Scott McNickle. I did not put two
and two together.

I sincerely apologize,
Scott

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 13:15 Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com wrote:

> To be clear, I believe y'all are responding to Scott McNickle not Scott
> McHarg who, while being the editor of the KFactor, is not part of the
> board. Mr. McNickle is also not a member of the board.
>
> So the comment about who messed up may potentially be misdirected.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 11:15 Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org wrote:
>
>> A big +1 for Ken! You guys messed up and now you’re trying to blame us
>> for pointing it out!! Simply amazing!
>>
>> Tony Frackowiak
>>
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>> Scott
>> I hope I don’t get blamed as well for the Andes not showing up under your
>> tree this morning. :) all y’all had to do was wake up on January 1 and
>> download the voting results and voila this would not have been an issue.
>> You could have still encouraged people to vote. Asked the VP’s to knock on
>> doors to get out the vote. And there would be a winner and loser. And this
>> would not have been an issue and everyone would be golden.
>> Ken
>>
>> Time to look for my Andes under the tree now :) Ooops the new plane is
>> coming by greyhound.
>>
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>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
>> behalf of Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:43:03 AM
>> *To:* General pattern discussion; John Fuqua
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
>>
>> + 2................
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 9:21 AM John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:
>>> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott McNickle
>>> via NSRCA-discussion
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:02 AM
>>> *To:* Ken Dunlap; General pattern discussion; Tony Frackowiak; J
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, let me get this straight...you think someone would cheat to get a
>>> job that pays nothing, takes up a lot of time and sets you up to be sniped
>>> at by anyone feeling cranky on a particular day, or just in general?  And
>>> you think that the Board of Directors, who devote countless hours trying to
>>> promote and maintain our hobby, put lots of thought into trying to produce
>>> interesting K Factor columns for you to read every month, and often spend
>>> considerable amounts of their own money attending Pattern-related events
>>> when they might rather be doing something else, would conspire to favor one
>>> volunteer over another?
>>>
>>> And you want to 'censure' us?
>>>
>>> Well, that's just hilarious.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott McNickle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On December 24, 2018 at 6:48 PM Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In your words " There is   not   a requirement (implied or otherwise)
>>> for a veil of secrecy in the process." So, in this spirit I have a couple
>>> of questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Did you see or were you made aware of the actual vote count in your
>>> race?
>>>
>>> 2) Did you see or were you made aware of the number of NSCRA members who
>>> have voted to date?
>>>
>>> 3) If you saw or were made aware of vote numbers, did you have access to
>>> who a member voted for in this election?
>>>
>>> 4) Was this information shared at the same time with all candidates or
>>> their representatives for each race?
>>>
>>> 5) Under the NSRCA By-Laws and Constitution, Article VIII Section 2e
>>>  says " e. A third party to the NSRCA such as an external audit group
>>> of the AMA should count all votes." If actual voting number totals were
>>> revealed, was a potential conflict with the By-laws discussed by any member
>>> of the Board and who did so?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the clarifications.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ken Dunlap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
>>> behalf of J via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:38 PM
>>> *To:* Tony Frackowiak; General pattern discussion
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good evening all,
>>>
>>> First, thank you Tony F. for starting this thread as it is great to see
>>> interest in the process.  As a point of information, the Board did indeed
>>> discuss the status of the elections at the December 2018 meeting, as
>>> clearly reflected in the minutes. This was done for two reasons.
>>>
>>> 1. To verify that everything was up and running properly, and
>>>
>>> 2. To encourage as much of the membership as possible to cast their vote.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The DVP’s were encouraged to reach out to their local members to vote,
>>> which you still can do for the next week or so. Please, encourage all who
>>> have not voted to please do so for whomever they like.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s great to see such passion about the process. It’s also helpful to
>>> stick to what we know to be true and factual. There is *not* a
>>> requirement (implied or otherwise) for a veil of secrecy in the process.
>>> Any suggestion otherwise is simply incorrect.  Also, there was no
>>> advocating one candidate over another. There was however, excitement in
>>> people participating in the electronic ballot process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here’s the good news.  If you feel strongly enough to change the voting
>>> process, you have that power and can submit that request to modify the
>>> bylaws as a member. You also have to opportunity to whip votes for the
>>> Candidate of your choosing until voting closes on December 31, with an
>>> electronic vote, or a written ballot for an additional 10 calendar days per
>>> the bylaws.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, tell all your friends that time is running short to let your voice
>>> be heard. Go online now and cast your vote ( https://www.nsrca.us/
>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nsrca.us%252F%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C2e1c3cf00346458d1ec708d66948f90d%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C636812159472751011%26sdata%3DUr18IEwJ2zs17bNLkbnBiBQK%252B8DAgZks3UT9HE74xOY%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C385646428ca74a6e576108d66a7fb3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636813494042368686&sdata=%2FTsVJdGOvT8q%2BT5WyqhExL5TrmOApXZaITOrb2h4vy0%3D&reserved=0>).
>>> Every vote matters!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting.
>>> During that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion about
>>> the current vote count in the election.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn’t voting open until the end of the month?  And isn’t there a longer
>>> time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes being tallied
>>> and discussed by the Board before the end of the voting period?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That is highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least
>>> it sounds like an attempt to influence the results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will await a reply.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Frackowiak
>>>
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