[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Tue Dec 25 10:15:45 AKST 2018

To be clear, I believe y'all are responding to Scott McNickle not Scott
McHarg who, while being the editor of the KFactor, is not part of the
board. Mr. McNickle is also not a member of the board.

So the comment about who messed up may potentially be misdirected.

Scott

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 11:15 Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org wrote:

> A big +1 for Ken! You guys messed up and now you’re trying to blame us for
> pointing it out!! Simply amazing!
>
> Tony Frackowiak
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Scott
> I hope I don’t get blamed as well for the Andes not showing up under your
> tree this morning. :) all y’all had to do was wake up on January 1 and
> download the voting results and voila this would not have been an issue.
> You could have still encouraged people to vote. Asked the VP’s to knock on
> doors to get out the vote. And there would be a winner and loser. And this
> would not have been an issue and everyone would be golden.
> Ken
>
> Time to look for my Andes under the tree now :) Ooops the new plane is
> coming by greyhound.
>
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
> behalf of Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:43:03 AM
> *To:* General pattern discussion; John Fuqua
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
>
> + 2................
>
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 9:21 AM John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> +1          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Scott McNickle via NSRCA-discussion
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:02 AM
>> *To:* Ken Dunlap; General pattern discussion; Tony Frackowiak; J
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, let me get this straight...you think someone would cheat to get a job
>> that pays nothing, takes up a lot of time and sets you up to be sniped at
>> by anyone feeling cranky on a particular day, or just in general?  And you
>> think that the Board of Directors, who devote countless hours trying to
>> promote and maintain our hobby, put lots of thought into trying to produce
>> interesting K Factor columns for you to read every month, and often spend
>> considerable amounts of their own money attending Pattern-related events
>> when they might rather be doing something else, would conspire to favor one
>> volunteer over another?
>>
>> And you want to 'censure' us?
>>
>> Well, that's just hilarious.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott McNickle
>>
>>
>>
>> On December 24, 2018 at 6:48 PM Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>> Joe.
>>
>>
>>
>> In your words " There is   not   a requirement (implied or otherwise)
>> for a veil of secrecy in the process." So, in this spirit I have a couple
>> of questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Did you see or were you made aware of the actual vote count in your
>> race?
>>
>> 2) Did you see or were you made aware of the number of NSCRA members who
>> have voted to date?
>>
>> 3) If you saw or were made aware of vote numbers, did you have access to
>> who a member voted for in this election?
>>
>> 4) Was this information shared at the same time with all candidates or
>> their representatives for each race?
>>
>> 5) Under the NSRCA By-Laws and Constitution, Article VIII Section 2e
>>  says " e. A third party to the NSRCA such as an external audit group of
>> the AMA should count all votes." If actual voting number totals were
>> revealed, was a potential conflict with the By-laws discussed by any member
>> of the Board and who did so?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the clarifications.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken Dunlap
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
>> behalf of J via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:38 PM
>> *To:* Tony Frackowiak; General pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
>>
>>
>>
>> Good evening all,
>>
>> First, thank you Tony F. for starting this thread as it is great to see
>> interest in the process.  As a point of information, the Board did indeed
>> discuss the status of the elections at the December 2018 meeting, as
>> clearly reflected in the minutes. This was done for two reasons.
>>
>> 1. To verify that everything was up and running properly, and
>>
>> 2. To encourage as much of the membership as possible to cast their vote.
>>
>>
>>
>> The DVP’s were encouraged to reach out to their local members to vote,
>> which you still can do for the next week or so. Please, encourage all who
>> have not voted to please do so for whomever they like.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s great to see such passion about the process. It’s also helpful to
>> stick to what we know to be true and factual. There is *not* a
>> requirement (implied or otherwise) for a veil of secrecy in the process.
>> Any suggestion otherwise is simply incorrect.  Also, there was no
>> advocating one candidate over another. There was however, excitement in
>> people participating in the electronic ballot process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here’s the good news.  If you feel strongly enough to change the voting
>> process, you have that power and can submit that request to modify the
>> bylaws as a member. You also have to opportunity to whip votes for the
>> Candidate of your choosing until voting closes on December 31, with an
>> electronic vote, or a written ballot for an additional 10 calendar days per
>> the bylaws.
>>
>>
>> So, tell all your friends that time is running short to let your voice be
>> heard. Go online now and cast your vote ( https://www.nsrca.us/
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nsrca.us%252F%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C2e1c3cf00346458d1ec708d66948f90d%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C636812159472751011%26sdata%3DUr18IEwJ2zs17bNLkbnBiBQK%252B8DAgZks3UT9HE74xOY%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C385646428ca74a6e576108d66a7fb3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636813494042368686&sdata=%2FTsVJdGOvT8q%2BT5WyqhExL5TrmOApXZaITOrb2h4vy0%3D&reserved=0>).
>> Every vote matters!
>>
>>
>>
>> Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all!
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>> I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting.
>> During that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion about
>> the current vote count in the election.
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn’t voting open until the end of the month?  And isn’t there a longer
>> time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes being tallied
>> and discussed by the Board before the end of the voting period?
>>
>>
>>
>> That is highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least it
>> sounds like an attempt to influence the results.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will await a reply.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Frackowiak
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