[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Tue Dec 25 09:50:40 AKST 2018

Yeah, not exactly the holiday spirit.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 11:10 AM Rick Sweeney via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Scott…I have been thinking the same thing.. What a PR nightmare. They need
> to stop.
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> Rick Sweeney
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
> behalf of Scott McNickle via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:02:19 AM
> *To:* Ken Dunlap; General pattern discussion; Tony Frackowiak; J
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> OK, let me get this straight...you think someone would cheat to get a job
> that pays nothing, takes up a lot of time and sets you up to be sniped at
> by anyone feeling cranky on a particular day, or just in general?  And you
> think that the Board of Directors, who devote countless hours trying to
> promote and maintain our hobby, put lots of thought into trying to produce
> interesting K Factor columns for you to read every month, and often spend
> considerable amounts of their own money attending Pattern-related events
> when they might rather be doing something else, would conspire to favor one
> volunteer over another?
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> And you want to 'censure' us?
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> Well, that's just hilarious.
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> Scott McNickle
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> On December 24, 2018 at 6:48 PM Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Joe.
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> In your words " There is   not   a requirement (implied or otherwise) for
> a veil of secrecy in the process." So, in this spirit I have a couple of
> questions.
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> 1) Did you see or were you made aware of the actual vote count in your
> race?
> 2) Did you see or were you made aware of the number of NSCRA members who
> have voted to date?
> 3) If you saw or were made aware of vote numbers, did you have access to
> who a member voted for in this election?
> 4) Was this information shared at the same time with all candidates or
> their representatives for each race?
> 5) Under the NSRCA By-Laws and Constitution, Article VIII Section 2e  says
> " e. A third party to the NSRCA such as an external audit group of the
> AMA should count all votes." If actual voting number totals were revealed,
> was a potential conflict with the By-laws discussed by any member of the
> Board and who did so?
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> Thanks for the clarifications.
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> Ken Dunlap
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
> behalf of J via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:38 PM
> *To:* Tony Frackowiak; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> Good evening all,
> First, thank you Tony F. for starting this thread as it is great to see
> interest in the process.  As a point of information, the Board did indeed
> discuss the status of the elections at the December 2018 meeting, as
> clearly reflected in the minutes. This was done for two reasons.
> 1. To verify that everything was up and running properly, and
> 2. To encourage as much of the membership as possible to cast their vote.
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> The DVP’s were encouraged to reach out to their local members to vote,
> which you still can do for the next week or so. Please, encourage all who
> have not voted to please do so for whomever they like.
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> It’s great to see such passion about the process. It’s also helpful to
> stick to what we know to be true and factual. There is *not* a
> requirement (implied or otherwise) for a veil of secrecy in the process.
> Any suggestion otherwise is simply incorrect.  Also, there was no
> advocating one candidate over another. There was however, excitement in
> people participating in the electronic ballot process.
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> Here’s the good news.  If you feel strongly enough to change the voting
> process, you have that power and can submit that request to modify the
> bylaws as a member. You also have to opportunity to whip votes for the
> Candidate of your choosing until voting closes on December 31, with an
> electronic vote, or a written ballot for an additional 10 calendar days per
> the bylaws.
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> So, tell all your friends that time is running short to let your voice be
> heard. Go online now and cast your vote ( https://www.nsrca.us/
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nsrca.us%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2e1c3cf00346458d1ec708d66948f90d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636812159472751011&sdata=Ur18IEwJ2zs17bNLkbnBiBQK%2B8DAgZks3UT9HE74xOY%3D&reserved=0>).
> Every vote matters!
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> Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all!
>
> Joe
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> On Dec 22, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting.
> During that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion about
> the current vote count in the election.
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> Isn’t voting open until the end of the month?  And isn’t there a longer
> time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes being tallied
> and discussed by the Board before the end of the voting period?
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> That is highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least it
> sounds like an attempt to influence the results.
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> I will await a reply.
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> Tony Frackowiak
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