<div dir="ltr">Yeah, not exactly the holiday spirit.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 11:10 AM Rick Sweeney via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><u></u>
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<div id="gmail-m_1177439181833741874divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Scott McNickle via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:02:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ken Dunlap; General pattern discussion; Tony Frackowiak; J<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election</font>
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OK, let me get this straight...you think someone would cheat to get a job that pays nothing, takes up a lot of time and sets you up to be sniped at by anyone feeling cranky on a particular day, or just in general? And you think that the Board of Directors,
who devote countless hours trying to promote and maintain our hobby, put lots of thought into trying to produce interesting K Factor columns for you to read every month, and often spend considerable amounts of their own money attending Pattern-related events
when they might rather be doing something else, would conspire to favor one volunteer over another?</p>
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And you want to 'censure' us?</p>
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Well, that's just hilarious.</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">On December 24, 2018 at 6:48 PM Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Joe.</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">In your words "</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
There is</span> <span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px">
not</span> <span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
a requirement (implied or otherwise) for a veil of secrecy in the process." So, in this spirit I have a couple of questions.</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">1) Did you see or were you
made aware of the actual vote count in your race?</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">2) Did you see or were you
made aware of the number of NSCRA members who have voted to date?</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">3) If you saw or were made
aware of vote numbers, did you have access to who a member voted for in this election?</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">4) Was this information
shared at the same time with all candidates or their representatives for each race?</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">5) Under the NSRCA By-Laws
and Constitution, Article VIII Section 2e says "</span> <span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:15px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva;font-size:13.33px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">e. A third party to the NSRCA such as an external audit group of the AMA should count all votes." If actual voting number
totals were revealed, was a potential conflict with the By-laws discussed by any member of the Board and who did so?</span></span></div>
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<div><span style="display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(68,71,82);font-family:verdana,geneva;font-size:small">Thanks for the clarifications.</span></span></div>
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<strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:38 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> Tony Frackowiak; General pattern discussion<br>
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<div dir="auto">Good evening all,
<div>First, thank you Tony F. for starting this thread as it is great to see interest in the process. As a point of information, the Board did indeed discuss the status of the elections at the December 2018 meeting, as clearly reflected in the minutes. This
was done for two reasons. </div>
<div>1. To verify that everything was up and running properly, and</div>
<div>2. To encourage as much of the membership as possible to cast their vote.</div>
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<div>The DVP’s were encouraged to reach out to their local members to vote, which you still can do for the next week or so. Please, encourage all who have not voted to please do so for whomever they like. </div>
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<div>It’s great to see such passion about the process. It’s also helpful to stick to what we know to be true and factual. There is
<strong>not</strong> a requirement (implied or otherwise) for a veil of secrecy in the process. Any suggestion otherwise is simply incorrect. Also, there was no advocating one candidate over another. There was however, excitement in people participating in
the electronic ballot process. </div>
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<div>Here’s the good news. If you feel strongly enough to change the voting process, you have that power and can submit that request to modify the bylaws as a member. You also have to opportunity to whip votes for the Candidate of your choosing until voting
closes on December 31, with an electronic vote, or a written ballot for an additional 10 calendar days per the bylaws. </div>
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So, tell all your friends that time is running short to let your voice be heard. Go online now and cast your vote (
<a href="https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nsrca.us%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2e1c3cf00346458d1ec708d66948f90d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636812159472751011&sdata=Ur18IEwJ2zs17bNLkbnBiBQK%2B8DAgZks3UT9HE74xOY%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
https://www.nsrca.us/</a>). Every vote matters!</div>
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<div>Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all!</div>
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On Dec 22, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion < <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">
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<div dir="ltr">I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting. During that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion about the current vote count in the election.
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<div>Isn’t voting open until the end of the month? And isn’t there a longer time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes being tallied and discussed by the Board before the end of the voting period?</div>
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<div>That is highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least it sounds like an attempt to influence the results. </div>
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<div>I will await a reply. </div>
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