[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Sun Dec 23 06:25:07 AKST 2018

There are only 410 nsrca members, voting electronically assures you must be
logged in and can only vote once. I’m sure any mail in ballots will be
verified for membership and authenticity. As long as we don’t receive 411
or more ballots I see no issue.
I think it is the boards duty to keep track of the election process. To
think that it’s possibe to sway the election by knowing its a close
election is silly. In fact it may incourage a higher participation
percentage and that is all good.
The board cannot change the ballots.
We are a very small group and getting smaller because of things like this.
I’m good with the election as it stands, if the board caves to the peer
pressure and tosses this one, it would not change my vote. Would it change
yours?  That would be more damaging than the board discussion about how
close the election was.
Perhaps we should contact the FBI to investigate any possible
consequences!!!

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 8:07 AM Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Almost feels like a lynching of the election.
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> If the real time vote tallies were not compromised, would everyone still
> think the Election should be voided? I would not. However, we may still
> have an integrity or ethics issue the BoD needs to deal with it, if a BoD
> member made such a comment as it is reckless to imply knowledge of the
> ongoing results. If it was not a BoD member that made the comment, then
> freedom of speech prevails and it’s a non-issue.
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> We need to know the facts. The BoD needs to take control and investigate
> it. If the facts are that the count was compromised, then the results
> should be voided and a new voting period began.
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> Best Regards,
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> Larry Diamond
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> *On Behalf Of *Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2018 8:08 AM
> *To:* David Harmon <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>; General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> +1
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> This is wrong at so many levels. Let’s void this election. You just don’t
> start tallying ballots before the election closes.
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> Ken Dunlap
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> *Sent:* Saturday, December 22, 2018 11:07:03 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> Plus 2 or 3 or 16…..jeeeze…
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> *David Harmon*
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jon Bruml via
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> *Sent:* Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:54 PM
> *To:* Pete Cosky <pcosky at comcast.net>; Frackowiak Tony <
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> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> Yes agreed
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> We will have to nullify the election and start a new process
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> Jonathan Bruml
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> *Sent:* Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:52 PM
> *To:* Frackowiak Tony; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> It may be the end of days because I agree with Frak.
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> There is absolutely no reason why the data should have been available let
> alone discussed.
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> The big question now is how do we recover?
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> Sent from my mobile device
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> On Dec 22, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> I’m sorry that you don’t see the impropriety here. You have an incumbent
> officer running for re-election able to see just how close the election is
> and then being able to drum up more votes for himself.
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> This election is now tainted. No one should be able to see the vote tally
> before the voting period has ended. The election should be nullified, the
> party or parties involved in releasing the vote tally prior to the
> conclusion of voting should be censured and removed from the process. The
> election should be held again and the voting results sent to an outside
> party. After the end of their normal term no decisions should be made by
> the BOD until a proper election can be held and the newly elected officers
> installed.
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> Should we as NSRCA members not be allowed a fair election?
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> Tony Frackowiak
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> On Dec 22, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Monte Richard <
> mrichard at compassengineering.com> wrote:
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> The discussion was centered around the fact that the voting was close to
> encourage the district Vice Presidents to encourage the members in their
> districts to cast their votes. It appears to have worked as this election
> looks like it will have the highest voter turnout in NSRCA history.
> Certainly a lot higher then the previous election which only had a voter
> turnout of 12 members.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 22, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrcaorg <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
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> I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting.
> During that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion about
> the current vote count in the election.
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> Isn’t voting open until the end of the month?  And isn’t there a longer
> time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes being tallied
> and discussed by the Board before the end of the voting period?
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> That is highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least it
> sounds like an attempt to influence the results.
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> I will await a reply.
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> Tony Frackowiak
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Cliff
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