<div><div dir="auto">There are only 410 nsrca members, voting electronically assures you must be logged in and can only vote once. I’m sure any mail in ballots will be verified for membership and authenticity. As long as we don’t receive 411 or more ballots I see no issue. </div></div><div dir="auto">I think it is the boards duty to keep track of the election process. To think that it’s possibe to sway the election by knowing its a close election is silly. In fact it may incourage a higher participation percentage and that is all good. </div><div dir="auto">The board cannot change the ballots.</div><div dir="auto">We are a very small group and getting smaller because of things like this. I’m good with the election as it stands, if the board caves to the peer pressure and tosses this one, it would not change my vote. Would it change yours? That would be more damaging than the board discussion about how close the election was. </div><div dir="auto">Perhaps we should contact the FBI to investigate any possible consequences!!!</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 8:07 AM Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6384662961374321769WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Almost feels like a lynching of the election.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">If the real time vote tallies were not compromised, would everyone still think the Election should be voided? I would not. However, we may still have an integrity or ethics issue the BoD needs to deal with it, if a BoD member made such a comment as it is reckless to imply knowledge of the ongoing results. If it was not a BoD member that made the comment, then freedom of speech prevails and it’s a non-issue.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We need to know the facts. The BoD needs to take control and investigate it. If the facts are that the count was compromised, then the results should be voided and a new voting period began.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Best Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Larry Diamond</span><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 23, 2018 8:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Harmon <<a href="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">k6xyz@sbcglobal.net</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6384662961374321769WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">+1<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This is wrong at so many levels. Let’s void this election. You just don’t start tallying ballots before the election closes. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ken Dunlap <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Get <a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef" target="_blank">Outlook for iOS</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="98%" align="center"></div><div id="m_6384662961374321769divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 22, 2018 11:07:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election</span> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d">Plus 2 or 3 or 16…..jeeeze…<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d">David Harmon<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d">NSRCA 586<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d">AMA 5053<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Bruml via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Pete Cosky <<a href="mailto:pcosky@comcast.net" target="_blank">pcosky@comcast.net</a>>; Frackowiak Tony <<a href="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Yes agreed <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We will have to nullify the election and start a new process <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jonathan Bruml<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Techstyles<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techstyles.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc417d0380fc94894a51508d66894835c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636811384401721519&sdata=8YtFAcPkiKTqJ6VMIogt9GD3FIjqTYG9ijvYvIOFD%2FI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">www.techstyles.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="98%" align="center"></div><div id="m_6384662961374321769divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Pete Cosky via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Frackowiak Tony; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">It may be the end of days because I agree with Frak. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">There is absolutely no reason why the data should have been available let alone discussed. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The big question now is how do we recover? <u></u><u></u></p><div id="m_6384662961374321769AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my<span class="m_6384662961374321769apple-style-span"> mobile device</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Dec 22, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I’m sorry that you don’t see the impropriety here. You have an incumbent officer running for re-election able to see just how close the election is and then being able to drum up more votes for himself. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This election is now tainted. No one should be able to see the vote tally before the voting period has ended. The election should be nullified, the party or parties involved in releasing the vote tally prior to the conclusion of voting should be censured and removed from the process. The election should be held again and the voting results sent to an outside party. After the end of their normal term no decisions should be made by the BOD until a proper election can be held and the newly elected officers installed.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Should we as NSRCA members not be allowed a fair election?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tony Frackowiak<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 22, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Monte Richard <<a href="mailto:mrichard@compassengineering.com" target="_blank">mrichard@compassengineering.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The discussion was centered around the fact that the voting was close to encourage the district Vice Presidents to encourage the members in their districts to cast their votes. It appears to have worked as this election looks like it will have the highest voter turnout in NSRCA history. Certainly a lot higher then the previous election which only had a voter turnout of 12 members.</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br>On Dec 22, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrcaorg</span></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting. During that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion about the current vote count in the election. <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Isn’t voting open until the end of the month? And isn’t there a longer time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes being tallied and discussed by the Board before the end of the voting period?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">That is highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least it sounds like an attempt to influence the results. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I will await a reply. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Tony Frackowiak <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.nsrca.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnsrca-discussion&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc417d0380fc94894a51508d66894835c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636811384401721519&sdata=8j%2BjZJQx3EK3OhjJQARvsxSpfDsfq7oHH9dMIvsZi2A%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br>(c) 2018 Compass Engineering & Consultants, LLC. 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