[NSRCA-discussion] Power points

Thu Oct 12 17:44:25 AKDT 2017

I agree with Wayne.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:59 PM Wayne Galligan via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> I’ve been practicing what is supposed to be the new Masters schedule.
> However there area a few that don’t like some of the maneuvers so it will
> most likely be changed.
> There was input originally as there was a questionnaire sent out.
>
> Frankly I like the challenge of the original proposed.
>
> Wayne G.
>
> *From:* Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:44 PM
> *To:* vellum2 at bellsouth.net ; nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Power points
>
>
> How else does the membership approve the sequences? Until today, we
> haven't even seen Masters, much less approved it.
>
> Jon
>
>
> ------------------------------
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 S. McNickle via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
>
>
> I don't see anything about a 'vote' in the posted rule.  If a vote were
> required there would need to be some requirements regarding how...e mail?
> Mail in ballot?...and a requirement concerning time period and voter
> qualifications.  Seems clear that a vote by the general membership was
> never intended.
>
> And, as Jon Carter wrote, we have never in recent history voted on
> sequences.
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> On October 12, 2017 at 6:24 PM J via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-
> discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> This one?
>
> The Radio Control Aerobatics sequences will be developed periodically by
> the National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA) Sequence Committee
> which is appointed by the NSRCA Board of Directors.
>
> *This is done*.
>
> The NSRCA Board of Directors will supervise the sequence development and
> will submit the proposed sequences to the membership for approval before
> they approve all sequences for use in RCA competition.
>
> *This is done.  It’s the survey, with very specific commentary that has
> been reviewed, modifications made, and now approved by the BoD. It was
> submitted to over 3000 people actually.  I see no voting requirement here.
> I look at the process as going above and beyond this requirement by
> simplifying some of the maneuvers as a result of the survey.  *
>
> All current sequences can be found at the NSRCA website. The NSRCA will
> modify the sequences for classes 401, 402 and 403, Indoor R/C Aerobatics
> Sportsman and Indoor R/C Aerobatics Intermediate at least every four years
> and the sequence for class 404 will be modified at least Academy of Model
> Aeronautics Competition Regulations | Radio Control Aerobatics 17 every two
> years, but sequences may be updated more frequently as required. Sequences
> will be published no later than December for the following year. A
> description of each maneuver for all sequences can be found on the NSRCA
> website at: http://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences.
>
>
>
> *This appears to align exactly with the process we have now completed. In
> fact we will now be a month ahead of schedule if we get everything posted
> by the end of the week. *
>
> *What am I missing?*
>
> Joe
>
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote:
>
> No! It is an NSRCA responsibility. It specifically says the NSRCA BOD will
> submit it to the membership for a vote.. Paragraph 15 of the rule book.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 Joe Walker <vellum2 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> That's an AMA vote Jon, not an NSRCA vote, so we have no control over that
> process.  Do we?
>
> These are the official patterns being submitted as outlined for the NSRCA
> responsibilities.
>
>
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:24 PM, Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry Joe, the AMA rule book trump's the charter. It REQUIRES the
> membership to vote on them.  I've sent you the appropriate language from
> the AMA rule book at least twice. Until we vote, they cannot be implemented
> by the board.
> Jon
>
>
> ------------------------------
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 Joe Walker <vellum2 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Good morning guys, the board reviewed everything last night and will
> publish the final sequences this week.  Just so we are all on the same
> page, the official approval process is listed below (Directly from the
> charter) and is on the website for everyone to review if you're so
> inclined.
>
> The Power Points are being produced right now by Jim Hiller (Thanks Jim!)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe Walker
>
>
>
>
>
>    1. Approval Process
>    Each new sequence, or change to a sequence, shall be submitted to the
>    General Membership and public for their review. The BoD shall approve
>    publication of sequences on the NSRCA website for membership/public review
>    and comment. The committee shall update their proposed sequences/changes,
>    if required, and submit it in final form to the BoD. The BoD shall
>    designate the Committee to prepare any inputs necessary to support the
>    sequence changes. Recommended changes to the maneuver descriptions and
>    judging criteria shall be coordinated with the NSRCA Rules Committee (if
>    necessary). Any changes to the Sequence Development Guide will be made by
>    the Committee Chairperson and submitted to the BoD for approval. Once a
>    final set of sequences is approved by the BoD it shall be published in the
>    K-Factor and posted on the NSRCA website.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:40 PM, Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-
> discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>
> We haven't voted on the sequences yet. Until we do, assuming they pass,
> the board can't implement them. Anything now is unofficial. At this point,
> AFAIK, the sequences to vote on haven't been finalized.
>
> Jon
>
> On Oct 10, 2017 9:01 AM, Randy Forbus via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-
> discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Are the powerpoint for the new sequences coming out soon.
>
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