[NSRCA-discussion] Perspective RE: Zero Judges at WC's

[Jeff Worsham]

Thanks Dave for that perspective and everyone else for a helpful discussion.  Much appreciated!

Jeff

 

From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of davel322--- via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Reply-To: <davel322 at comcast.net>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 7:20 PM
To: "'Atwood, Mark'" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>, 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, 'Dave Burton' <burtona at atmc.net>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Perspective RE: Zero Judges at WC's

 

Just a little perspective……pleasant or not, ugly or not, etc.

 

In sports…there is a saying….”no whistle, no foul”.  In auto sports…..”rubbing is racing”.  Do baseball and football players admit when a ball skipped lightly off the turf before a catch?  Nope.  Do soccer players admit when they have committed a handball foul?  Nope.  Do basketball players admit when they have travelled?  Nope.  Have referees called fouls when they did not truly exist?  Yep.  Intentional or not, players and refs both make errors, and sometimes the outcome is affected.  

 

With pattern flying, the pilot is tasked with flying a sequence of maneuvers to perfection, and that includes clearly presenting the correct elements as well as doing sneaky, stealthy, subtle things to minimize and hide errors.  It is the judges job to evaluate/assess/determine/”judge” the presence of proper elements and assign downgrades for flaws.  Just as pilots make mistakes, so do judges, and both can affect the outcome, no different than other competitive sports.

 

Will FAI/F3A/pattern learn from this instance at the WC?  I hope so!

 

Regards,

 

Dave

 

 

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To: Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Zero Judges at WC's

 

Honestly?  No.  Though I don’t think any will argue the Onda clearly won.  But he almost didn’t.  And it wasn’t really even close.   Not scoring clear zeros was indeed a problem and embarrassed the pilot that received the artificially high scores.   


On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Dave Burton via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

always are, always will be.

Scores are meaningless, objective is to rank pilots from best to worst. Did that get accomplished?

Dave

 

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hochhalter via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Zero Judges at WC's

 

Yes... a few were missed.

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On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:06 PM, John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion

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