[NSRCA-discussion] LONG conversation with Joe Walker on NATs, sequence proposals, and other NSRCA issues.

[Frackowiak Tony]

Well, we'd love to have ya!

Tony Frackowiak

On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Curt Oberg wrote:

> Tony,
> We used to have an active CPA group here in the southeast but it has completely dried up for a number of reasons.  The Southeast SPA group have a fixation on aircraft hardware and expect me to lock the gears down and replace my tuned pipes with stock mufflers while at the same time have approved just about every power plant  in the universe except for steam engines.  The only reason I started up again with AMA pattern was a lack of CPA contest activity here in the southeast.  I decided that if I was going to go through the expense, time, and effort to be able to enjoy pattern competition in local pattern contests, it had to be organized nationally AND have a national competition.  The only type of pattern competition that fills those requirements here in the southeast is AMA pattern so I bit the bullet, bought a new van to haul a 2M plane, numerous LiPo battery packs, battery chargers, power analyzers/monitors, elect motors,  ESC's, carbon fiber spinners/props, light weight wheels, an accurate scale to weigh everything, wing bags, 4 or 5 different 2M planes, etc., etc., etc   and after 2 years back in AMA pattern, I would conservatively estimate at least $50,000 spent (including the Toyota Sienna XLE).  Definitely not the AMA pattern that I used to enjoy back in the early 80's.  Maybe I should have packed up and moved from Fla to Ca instead to enjoy some CPA competition??? NAWWW, no way. 
> Curt Oberg  
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> From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:57 PM
> To: Ronald Van Putte; General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] LONG conversation with Joe Walker on NATs,sequence proposals, and other NSRCA issues.
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> Hey Ron. If SPA was going on around here I wouldn't care about the rules. Our CPA contests are not really about models but about the fun of one maneuver per pass. We let just about anything fly. I really think this will be the only way to bring the better then average sport flier in to competition RC aerobatics. The vast majority don't have the cabbage for Pattern or IMAC and are being left out in the cold. Plus we do only 1-day contests and that also really helps them out.
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> Try it, I bet you'll love it. Whole different type of event and people.
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> Tony Frackowiak
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> On Jun 20, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
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> I might be doing SPA right now if the rules weren’t so messed up.  No retracts or pipes, but you may use .90 cu in+ 4-strokes!  Many of the Daddy Rabbit, Intruder and Dirty Birdy airplanes have dimensions that are in excess of the allowable discrepancies from the original models, particularly the fuselage length.  A friend had a Curare and a Super Curare, but only the Curare was acceptable and the only real difference was in the canopy area.  Go figure.
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> I walked away from the SPA more than 20 years ago, but, even with the messed up rules, I might go back.
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> Ron Van Putte 
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>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Wayne Galligan via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>> SPA is doing that now...   there are 5 SPA contests in the DFW area alone.   I couldn’t do 5 AMA Pattern events within 3-6hrs of here now.
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>> From: Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 2:26 PM
>> To: Curt Oberg
>> Cc: 'General pattern discussion'
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] LONG conversation with Joe Walker on NATs,sequence proposals, and other NSRCA issues.
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>> We can only dream, can't we. 
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>> Tony Frackowiak
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>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Curt Oberg wrote:
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>> If we're not careful, perhaps AMA pattern will evolve back into Curare's with retracts and a screaming piped .61 glow powered engine up front with a single maneuver each pass.  Who knows?
>> Curt Oberg
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