[NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests

DaveL322 DaveL322 at comcast.net
Wed Jul 19 10:10:35 AKDT 2017


In Master score, it would be best 4 out of 6 rounds of P17.  Pilots opting to fly F for 5 and 6 would have their scores recorded on a P17 sheet. 
In the vast majority of contests, the guys opting to fly F are still going to score higher on F (with P Kfactors) than guys that stick with P.  Yes, the point difference will shrink.... But the overall outcome is rarely going to change. 
Regards,
Dave
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-------- Original message --------From: Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com> Date: 7/19/17  1:09 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: DaveL322 <DaveL322 at comcast.net>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> Cc: rixsweeney at gmail.com Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests 
F as an option for some pilots is really easy to do with Master Scoring.  It does skew scores toward the guys flying F in the last 2 rounds as and average of 8.3 on the F sequence maneuvers will be the equivalent of all 10's in the P sequence.
Peter+
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:05 AM, DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
Allow F as an option for rounds 5 and 6 and you get the best of both worlds with the benefit of making it easier to separate top F3A flyers when more than one is at a local contest, which is not uncommon in some parts of the US. 
Regards,
Dave
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-------- Original message --------From: rixsweeney--- via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> Date: 7/19/17  11:44 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests 
Perhaps removing FAI F from local contests would solve a few issues discussed on this list:Current Masters flyers who are advocating for the Masters schedules to adopt FAI P as the Masters schedule could just move up and fly FAI knowing they will not be required to fly the F pattern. That makes them happy.Current Masters flyers who think adopting FAI P is a bad idea can rest easy as nbr #1 above takes FAI P for Masters off the table.Current FAI flyers who have no one to compete against at local contests because of F,  will now have a few competitors that will undoubtedly move up.  If even one or two Masters flyers move up it will ease the judging issue.If FAI guys that want to get some F practice for the NATS or Worlds, they can accomplish that at the practice field, and or another option…A CD could optionally add some F demo flights during a contest and have Masters and FAI guys judge and score them. These would be demos and would not count as a contest flight but allows FAI F guys to get some judging exposure. I have no doubt some of the FAI guys who don’t fly F would be willing to Judge the one or two FAI F guys or even a few Masters flyers. These F demo flights could be flown at days end on either day or however a CD wants to fit them in. Lunch break perhaps.   I know first hand that a few FAI guys insist on flying F at local contests so they get judging exposure and as a result they have no one to play with.   For this to work, all CD’s in all districts would need to adopt removing F from all local events. I am seeing many benefits to flying P only, locally.  Rick    Sent from Mail for Windows 10 
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