[NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!

Tue Jul 18 18:34:02 AKDT 2017

I wasn't going to bite but oh well.

Anthony, I would guess you are an NSRCA member.  If so, you should be
surveyed if not then I know you have flown enough recently to qualify anyway
but again I'm not god here.

This discussion, in my opinion isn't about growing pattern that is another
important discussion for another day.

This discussion is about keeping what we got (you and Dave Burton for
example).

What if all the "non-pattern" flyers as I call them decide to make masters
harder.

Then we lose Verne, Joe L, etc.

I think this discussion is best left to the current NSRCA members.

I've been thinking about polling my club in an official manner as to why
they don't give competition a try (scale, IMAC, heli, pattern, etc).

I suspect I know the answer but it might be worth my time.

Getting input from those who don't know what we are all about is just folly.

Ron Hansen

From: W Anthony Abdullah [mailto:aabdu at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:19 PM
To: Dave Burton; General pattern discussion
Cc: Ron Hansen; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date!

I'm with you on that Dave. Very shortsighted and narrow minded approach.
Further shrinking the pool of potential pattern pilots.

There was a time when none of us went to contests or belonged to the NSRCA

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 18, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Dave Burton via NSRCA-discussion
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

IMO, you are wrong on every point.

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:43 PM
To: 'Patternpilot One'; 'General pattern discussion'; 'Peter Vogel'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date!

I disagree with sending a survey out to a bunch of people who are not
regular competitors.

You aren't a pattern flyer if you don't go to contests.

If you don't go to contests I don't really care what your opinion is.

If you don't go to contests especially in a long time I don't think there is
anything we can do to convince you to come.

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:37 PM
To: Peter Vogel; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date!

If you truly wanted to reach all the pattern fliers in the states. Use all
the pattern forums RCG, RCU, and others and make the survey on survey money
and track via AMA number for dups. You can also use the NSRCA number to
track current or dropped members and ask a question why dropped with several
options or a write in.

Sorry to say this is on reason pattern is dying, to much BS and patterns
getting to the point you have to practice full time to be in the top 10..
Where has the fun gone to?

Like to see who could still fly a horizontal 8 or do 3 outside loops etc.  

Past NSRCA 529.

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Date: 7/18/17 5:30 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> 
Cc: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date! 

NO.  It DOES NOT MEAN THAT!  You can be registered on the NSRCA web site FOR
FREE without being an NSRCA member.  We'll also be providing links to the
the survey on various web pages, but sending a trackable invite is the one
way I can measure how many people who were *invited* to respond did so.
I'll send invites to *as big a list* as is feasible... 

STOP trying to create conspiracies where they DO NOT exist?  Do you honestly
think that the board has nothing better to do with their time than to come
up with conspiracies to avoid getting input from the pattern community?
Even if we did, what possible motive would we have to do that?

Peter+

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:

I guess this means only NSRCA members will get the survey. Wouldn't it be
meaningful to get survey input from all the pattern flyers who have never
been members or dropped out of NSRCA membership?

Dave

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:03 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date!

Login to https://nsrca.us and then go to the "edit profile" link
(https://nsrca.us/index.php/cb-profile-edit)

We'll be sending the sequence survey to the e-mail addresses registered in
your user profiles.  Your responses will be anonymous, but we can track who
did/did not take the survey, this will help us to understand when we have a
statistically meaningful set of responses.

Peter+

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Treasurer, National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)

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