[NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!

Tue Jul 18 17:11:43 AKDT 2017

You and I both know there isn't such a thing.

But you do have to be an AMA member and all contests pattern or otherwise
were and are run under AMA competition guidelines.

Now we have a SIG (NSRCA) that helps lobby the AMA and the FAI for changes
and does a lot of other things for us.

That is why you should be an NSRCA member to get a survey.

I don't want non-NSRCA members telling us how to do things when they will
never compete.

I guess you want all the benefits of US citizenship without paying taxes
because you don't like who's in congress or who's the president.

From: Patternpilot One [mailto:patternpilot1 at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:25 PM
To: Ron Hansen; 'General pattern discussion'; 'Cliff Bradford'
Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date!

Ron,

Please show me in any AMA rule book that you have to be a member of a SIG
(NSRCA)  in this case to compete in pattern.

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Ron Hansen <rcpilot at wowway.com> 
Date: 7/18/17 8:16 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'Patternpilot One' <patternpilot1 at hotmail.com>, 'General pattern
discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, 'Cliff Bradford'
<cliff357b at gmail.com> 
Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date! 

If you are not an NSRCA member because you are trying to make a statement
about the current state of affairs I understand that; otherwise, if you fly
at pattern contest on a regular basis and are not a NSRCA member then shame
on you!!

You are benefiting from all the hard work of other volunteers.  

Without the NSRCA pattern contests would not exist.

That is like getting health insurance without paying for it or expecting the
AMA to fight the FAA while not being a member.

Again only NSRCA members should get a survey!!

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:52 PM
To: Cliff Bradford; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date!

Since when the He!! do you have to belong to NSRCA to fly pattern??? I bet
there are many who don't belong to Nsrca or follow the list who fly pattern
on a regular basis.

This is why the membership is crashing.. 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Cliff Bradford via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

Date: 7/18/17 7:44 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, John
Gayer <west.engineering at comcast.net> 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date! 

I think the survey should be directed at NSRCA members, I could care less
what the part time Pattern guy thinks. Making it available to those that
have a desire to provide input is fine and Peter has said he will do that,
Hang in there Peter!!! It's a thankless job but I thank you for all your
hard work and passion for the hobbie. 

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:36 PM John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

We do own the sequences as per the AMA rulebook.
With a short timeframe it is better to poll the NSRCA membership than to say
we must poll the AMA membership. How would you ever determine the AMA
members interested in pattern? From the little boxes on the AMA membership
application? Good luck.

Also, dropping your membership because you are fed up with this list is BS.
You don't even have to be an NSRCA member to join this list.

John

On 7/18/2017 3:06 PM, Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion wrote:

The survey is useless unless it is available to all "AMA" members who
participate in pattern events. The NSRCA does not own Precision Aerobatics.

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From: NSRCA-discussion  <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>
<nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of Peter Vogel via
NSRCA-discussion  <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:03 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail
address is up to date! 

Login to https://nsrca.us and then go to the "edit profile" link
(https://nsrca.us/index.php/cb-profile-edit) 

 <https://nsrca.us/> NSRCA

nsrca.us

The NSRCA is a Special Interest Group for precision aerobatics in the USA.

We'll be sending the sequence survey to the e-mail addresses registered in
your user profiles.  Your responses will be anonymous, but we can track who
did/did not take the survey, this will help us to understand when we have a
statistically meaningful set of responses.

Peter+

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Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark

Associate Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X

Treasurer, National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)

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