[NSRCA-discussion] New sequences

[John Gayer]

Mark,
The Cobra with snap on the 45 down was used in the Advanced sequence 
before the current one. I don't recall complaints about that maneuver. I 
was on the committee then and flying advanced as well and never saw a 
problem. Moving the snap to the upline would be fine as a compromise. 
However it's not in the catalog which may cause an issue in some circles.

I agree about the knife edge thingy. Would prefer an 8-pt from inverted 
here.

John

On 7/17/2017 9:09 AM, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> I was able to fly both the proposed Masters and Advanced sequences 
> this weekend with Chuck Edwards.  All in all good, with a few thoughts.
>
> *Masters* -
>
> I like it. Flows reasonably well.  Some fun challenges, but nothing 
> daunting.  The two rolls opposite is easily the prettiest maneuver in 
> the schedule, and it will separate anyone not comfortable rolling both 
> ways.
>
> *One concern* - The only sticky maneuver I thought is the 1 1/4, KE 
> flight, 1 1/4.   It’s simply too long to make look pretty, and if it’s 
> a strong head wind, will really look like crap.  You’re basically 
> trying to fit 2 1/2 rolls AND sustained KE flight on a downwind leg 
> and stay in the box, thus forcing somewhat rapid rolls which simply 
> look rushed.
>
> I would strongly suggest changing it to 3/4 roll, KE, 3/4 roll.   Same 
> difficulty really, but a full roll shorter and thus allows for a more 
> graceful, controlled roll rate.
>
> Total Mah draw in modest wind (7-9kt cross) was 3580mah  without 
> paying particular attention to throttle management, given that it was 
> the first time through the sequence.  Quite a bit less time and power 
> than the current schedule.
>
>
> *Advanced*.
> It’s also nice, with one /major/ concern.  The Cobra.  It’s not as 
> conventional as I think is expected, and I feel it’s too much for an 
> advanced flyer just learning to snap their airplane (my opinion). 
>  You’re already a bit rushed going into is, and you’re pushing in from 
> Inverted.  No biggie.  Half roll up, over the top and back down on a 
> 45.  THEN you have a single snap on the 45 deg DOWN line.
>
> I can tell you from personal experience and a re-kitted Spark (St. 
> Clairsville flying F-11 with a 1 1/2 snap down on the cobra) that a 
> snap like this *WILL *crash an airplane.  You’re heading down, not all 
> that high to begin with, and if you badly miss the snap and lose your 
> orientation, you’re likely on low throttle and low airspeed and will 
> proceed to stall/snap it into the ground in your attempt to recover.   
>  I’d much rather see a snap on the UP leg of the cobra.  It would 
> still be rushed, but FAR more airplane and pilot friendly.
>
> Other than that, is has all the traditional challenges.     Power was 
> very low as I flew the schedule with only 2800mah (also a 7-9kt 
> crosswind).
>
> My $0.02 worth with 1 time through Advanced and twice through Masters. 
>  So limited testing.  Your mileage may vary.
>
> Hope to see a bunch of you in Arkansas!
>
> -Mark
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