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Mark,<br>
The Cobra with snap on the 45 down was used in the Advanced sequence
before the current one. I don't recall complaints about that
maneuver. I was on the committee then and flying advanced as well
and never saw a problem. Moving the snap to the upline would be fine
as a compromise. However it's not in the catalog which may cause an
issue in some circles.<br>
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I agree about the knife edge thingy. Would prefer an 8-pt from
inverted here.<br>
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John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/2017 9:09 AM, Atwood, Mark via
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<div class="">I was able to fly both the proposed Masters and
Advanced sequences this weekend with Chuck Edwards. All in
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</font><b class="">Masters</b> - </div>
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<div class="">I like it. Flows reasonably well. Some fun
challenges, but nothing daunting. The two rolls opposite is
easily the prettiest maneuver in the schedule, and it will
separate anyone not comfortable rolling both ways. </div>
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<div class=""><b class="">One concern</b> - The only sticky
maneuver I thought is the 1 1/4, KE flight, 1 1/4. It’s
simply too long to make look pretty, and if it’s a strong
head wind, will really look like crap. You’re basically
trying to fit 2 1/2 rolls AND sustained KE flight on a
downwind leg and stay in the box, thus forcing somewhat
rapid rolls which simply look rushed. <br class="">
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</font>I would strongly suggest changing it to 3/4 roll, KE,
3/4 roll. Same difficulty really, but a full roll shorter
and thus allows for a more graceful, controlled roll rate.<br
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</font>Total Mah draw in modest wind (7-9kt cross) was
3580mah without paying particular attention to throttle
management, given that it was the first time through the
sequence. Quite a bit less time and power than the current
schedule.</div>
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</font><b class="">Advanced</b>. </div>
<div class="">It’s also nice, with one <i class="">major</i>
concern. The Cobra. It’s not as conventional as I think is
expected, and I feel it’s too much for an advanced flyer
just learning to snap their airplane (my opinion). You’re
already a bit rushed going into is, and you’re pushing in
from Inverted. No biggie. Half roll up, over the top and
back down on a 45. THEN you have a single snap on the 45
deg DOWN line. <br class="">
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</font>I can tell you from personal experience and a
re-kitted Spark (St. Clairsville flying F-11 with a 1 1/2
snap down on the cobra) that a snap like this
<b class="">WILL </b>crash an airplane. You’re heading
down, not all that high to begin with, and if you badly miss
the snap and lose your orientation, you’re likely on low
throttle and low airspeed and will proceed to stall/snap it
into the ground in your attempt to recover. I’d much
rather see a snap on the UP leg of the cobra. It would
still be rushed, but FAR more airplane and pilot friendly. <br
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</font>Other than that, is has all the traditional
challenges. Power was very low as I flew the schedule
with only 2800mah (also a 7-9kt crosswind). <br class="">
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<div class="">My $0.02 worth with 1 time through Advanced and
twice through Masters. So limited testing. Your mileage
may vary.<br class="">
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</font>Hope to see a bunch of you in Arkansas! <br
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</font>-Mark<br class="">
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