[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Advanced

[Frackowiak Tony]

That's another reason to not use IAC or IMAC. They weight their K's based on what the pilot inside the airplane has to go through. So negative maneuvers are usually much higher K's.

Another sign of the Apocalypse.

Tony Frackowiak

On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion wrote:

> Just as a point of reference, IAC has a positive snap with a K = 13 and a Negative snap with a K = 17.    And to Tony’s point, the whole K=factor approach is that EVERY element increases the K-value.  We have aggregated the individual K values down so we have a lot less granularity in our K values than IAC does, but the concept still applies. So no, every increase in complexity won’t necessarily raise the K-factor of a maneuver, but most will.  
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> My $0.02
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> Wait… did I just agree with Frak AND Verne at the same time?  :) 
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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> I actually very much like the new intermediate sequence particularly because it adds 4 point roll elements, which helps to bridge the difficulty gap between intermediate and advanced.  
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> Quite frankly, from a snap roll perspective, I'm not sure how negative and positive are different other than which corners I need to bury my sticks into...
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> Peter+
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> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Verne Koester via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> There hasn't been much said about the proposed Advanced schedule. It appears to me to be an improvement and more appropriate skill level schedule than the current one with one exception.
> We rarely hear from existing Intermediate pilots on Advanced schedule proposals. I suspect that's mostly because they have no experience yet in the skills they'll have to gain once they move up. Those of us who have taken that step need to consider what they're facing.
> So if I'm an Intermediate pilot moving up to Advanced, I'm going to have to learn, having never done them before, the slow roll, 4-point roll, snap, and spin. I'd argue that this is the single hardest transition in pattern.
> Now we're going to throw a negative snap in for good measure?????
> COME ON, MAN!!!!
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