[NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Leadership / New Sequences - My thoughts - Long

Fri Jul 7 08:13:12 AKDT 2017

Seems like the only criteria in changing the sequences is to make them harder !
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------ Original message------From: Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion Date: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 11:02 AMTo: General pattern discussion;Cc: Subject:Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Leadership / New Sequences -Mythoughts - Long
The Intermediate and Advanced patterns look OK, but I don't think Intermediate should be changed as it is only on it's 2nd year. 
The Masters pattern is much more difficult then the current. 14 of the 19 maneuvers have to be written in to the Guide. The assigned K-Factors are pulled out of thin air for many of the maneuvers. They are whatever they needed to be to stay under the K limit.
Look at this pattern as an Advanced flier entering Masters. You now have two integrated rolling maneuvers. The full roll over the top 1/2 of a loop is much more difficult then the 1/2 roll over the top 1/4. Then the turnaround 1/2 loop with 1/2 roll will be much more difficult as you start low and have to end up quite high for the next maneuver. It will be a lengthy, difficult maneuver.
The two maneuvers with snaps are right after each other. I would think you would want separation between snap maneuvers. And they will both be inside snaps.
The vertical cuban 8 will be huge demanding lots of power. 
There is no chance to correct your box positioning after the spin. You have to go right in to the opposite slow rolls which have to start early. And you will be blown back in to the rolls from the spin.
The trombone is a poor choice in between the vertical cuban and the golf ball. There will be very little distance in between the maneuvers. And it will only be able to be flown one way. No real choice here.
The golf ball will be much more difficult then the current ke humpty. Since it is starting downwind with the ke starting on a 45 degree line you will be at ke for a very long time.
The addition of instant roll reversal will make it much more difficult for the incoming advanced flier.
As far as I know, you guys did nothing to address the improper make-up of the Sequence Committee. You cannot expect a proper Masters pattern without difficulty creep from a Committee made up of mostly Masters pilots.
This pattern will keep Advanced fliers from moving up, which in most cases will have them quitting pattern.
Since the make-up of the Sequence Committee does not follow the charter, with very little representation amongst the classes, this is a top heavy schedule. From my own personal standpoint, make Masters as hard as you want to. I have plenty of time to practice. But it will be a smaller group of Masters fliers.
Tony
On Jul 7, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Joe Walker via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
Hey guys!  Be sure to go to the main site now to take a look at the proposed sequences for Intermediate, Advanced and Masters.  Remember that we are in the commenting stage and all feedback is welcome.  My only request is that you be specific in your thoughts so the feedback can be productive in making the sequences the best they can be.  I really like them personally and look forward to diving in and practicing up!
Best regards,Joe WalkerNSRCA President 

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 ion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Joe Walker; Scott McHarg; NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Leadership / New Sequences - My thoughts - Long  Joe,
Thanks for the reply.
One suggestion I have is to reinstitute the physical board meeting at the Nats or perhaps a meeting with beer and whatever. It's a great opportunity to meet your fellow board members and discuss the future of pattern. Just keep it informal and fun. The idea is more to form connections then to discuss normal board business.

Concerning the list, set up a local folder for the list and use a filter to dump into it. Then you have no additional inbox clutter and its easy to tell when there is a hot topic.

JohnOn 6/20/2017 2:43 PM, Joe Walker wrote:Good afternoon John,I'm not certain that the entirety of the board subscribes to the list, but I'm here now and it is a voluntary discussion list.  It's also not the only way to communicate, so if there is a hot topic you would like to see immediate action on, please send an email to the person you are desiring to connect with.  Or better yet, a phone call.  I can tell you now from experience that it sure does fill up your inbox in a hurry!  My preference would be to change to a platform that is a bit more in line with the rest of the world, but I'm certain that will stir up another thread, thus contributing more to the inbox influx, so I'll save that for another time ;-). I can also say definitively that engaging every post is an enormous time commitment.  People like to type!  I think there have been many great suggestions on a variety of topics.  I'm certainly on board with several great ideas and have been, and will continue to 
 be an advocate for reasonable discussion with suggestions to make what we do more fun for everyone.  
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