[NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?

[Whodaddy Whodaddy]

Wats wrong with choosing within the rules...

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> On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:
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> What's wrong with letting the pilot make the choices? There is no choice to fly a less competitive heavier setup with his 2 M plane except to spend more money if he wants to comply with the rules. What's not fair with letting the pilot make the decision?
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> From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: Joe Lachowski; General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?
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> Wat u dont get joe.....is lets say a set up that uses lots of batt power at the choice of the pilot and provides an advantage in flight and cost almost double to conventional motor set up .... It weighs more .. So he has to use lighter lower mah batts to make weight .. He has trouble completing the flight in higher than average wind ( nats wind) ... Ur thinking allows this guy to fly heavier batts (more mah) complete his flight  .. Because the weight limit has been raised .... Not really fair now to the guy who can't or choses not to afford higher $$ motor set up.... 
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> Not trying to degrade ur thinking joe i jus think the issue has broad ramifications 
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> Gary
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> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Maybe he can update it to include Masters instead of having to submit another proposal. Plane size will always be dictated by FAI. So I see no reason to restrict the AMA classes to the weight rule. I guarantee you most people flying AMA classes will have their planes within a half a pound of the current limit anyway. Lets face it our planes are eggshells the way it is and if I could I would beef up areas like the landing gear structure. I can't count how many people in the AMA classes have ripped out landing gear at a local contest.
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> As far as Sportsman goes I am a believer of fly anything you got or at least leave it to being at the Contest Directors discretion provided the requirements are spelled out in the Sanctioning documents.
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> If anything FAI has made it more costly with the absurd maneuvers required to be flown which drives the complexity, shape and size of the airframes upwards along with the cost.
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> From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of Jeff Worsham via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:13 AM
> To: Robert Campbell; General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?
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> AMA website shows the following rules change proposal for 2018-19 already submitted by Curtis Oberg:
> "I propose that the current 5000 gram weight limit be eliminated for the Sportsman, Intermediate, and Advanced Classes."
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> On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:58 AM, Robert Campbell via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Or weigh fuel airplanes with FULL tanks.  The FAI rule does specify TAKE-OFF weight may not exceed 5 kg.  You can't take-off without fuel.
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> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> Does anyone know when the next rules proposal cycle begins?
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> I think it is time to stretch the weight limit to at least 4 ozs over 11 lbs. for electrics in ALL the AMA classes. Tired of paying the proverbial  $100 and ounce to get there. Glow setups have an advantage. No doubt in my mind.
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> Flame on.
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