[NSRCA-discussion] Website update

Sat Jan 21 09:39:53 AKST 2017

Im sure you will make it a great event, im going to try my best to make it my first Nats ever.

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From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of Dr. Mike Harrison via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 6:13 PM
To: 'John Gayer'; 'General pattern discussion'; 'John Fuqua'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Website update

To all,

In general, I am not going to get into explaining all my thoughts regarding how the nats is going to be run and what my philosophy is regarding some of the rational.  However, let me make some points here.  Last year there were 9 intermediates and 12 advanced.  They had equal exposure every day.  To do a finals is not justified on that basis alone.  The added complexity and work is not justified.  Not going to change that.

Regarding Sportsman, it is supposed to be an “introductory class” but of course there are flyers living there.  Its intent was to show new flyers how a contest works, what it is like, what it feels like to fly in it. An educational process.  If they fly once or twice and they like it then they need to learn the intermediate class, have an airplane that qualifies, practice a little bit, and enter a contest.

That was the spirit and intent of Sportsman.  That is the philosophy I will live by.  We plan to do things to make this a good and memorable time for them.

I encourage and welcome all your thoughts and comments.  All will be considered.

It is important to me to make this a quality memorable event. however, I am going to greatly limit my time on the general discussion list.

Thanks

Mike

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 8:17 PM
To: John Fuqua <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Website update

John,
I see what you mean.
I'm not sure why no one ( including me) has submitted a rule change to take Sportsman out of the supplemental class. How many years have we included Sportsman at most or all local contests? Why do we need a designation which defines Sportsman as a class whose only difference is that it is specifically excluded from the Nats?

John

On 1/20/2017 3:01 PM, John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion wrote:

Sportsman is a provisional class.  AMA does not support any provisional classes at the Nats.   SIGs can but AMA will not.

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 3:15 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Website update

The new website looks great and is a much better presentation of the information we all need.

After reading Mike's article on the Nats I have a couple of comments.

I like the idea of trying out an addition of Sportsman on a trial basis although I'm not sure how we would fit in the additional class in Muncie. Regarding the trophies, I would provide the same trophies for Sportsman as any other class. Getting the trophies from the AMA shouldn't be a problem as Sportsman is an official AMA class. I don't see the point in making the effort to include Sportsman and then making them feel like second class citizens.  I assume that the same aircraft specification rules will be applied as everyone else. No waiver for "fly what you brung"

Second thought relates to holding a final for Intermediate and Advanced. In the past there has been an acknowledged problem in finding judges plus many of the competitors didn't want to hang around the extra day. I suggest using the third day as a combination of a final and the usual last two rounds for non-finalists. The top 8 competitors would go into the finals and fly two rounds. Best of the rounds would be used to average with prelim average to establish the finalist order. The remaining pilots would still be jockeying for their final placing but could not beat out any finalist.

Or everyone could fly all 6 rounds and then have a one round sudden death flyoff of the top 8 places for final placing.

Point is that there are ways to provide a final for all classes without undue strain on all concerned.

John

On 1/20/2017 12:26 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion wrote:

I agree Vince.  We did it in the D-3 contest announcements that were just phased out.

Ron

On Jan 20, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Looks great.  Thanks Derek.

Only one suggestion.  It will be great to somehow allow pilots to tell the CDs that they are planing to attend their contest.  I think is good for the CD and clubs to have approximate head count to prepare for the contest.  Probably this has been discussed in the pass and I forgot details.  Also this helps the CD to comunicate back to pilots in case of sudden changes just before the contest.

Thanks again,

Vicente "Vince" Bortone

On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Hi Rob,

Mike Harrison’s info is there – it was put up a couple of days ago.  I’ll have Jon Carter’s article up shortly…

Thanks for the feedback!

-Derek

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Date: Friday, January 20, 2017 at 7:34 AM
To: Anthony Romano <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com<mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>>, NSRCA List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Website update

I really like the new site.  My favorite feature is the way the links to upcoming contests are displayed on the home page.

The only negative comment I have is I can't find the 2017 NATS info from Mike Harrison and Jon Carter that was on the old site.  I expect that will be fixed in a few days.  But then again, AMA doesn't have much on the 2017 NATS yet either.

Excellent job on the new website!

Rob

On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Anthony Romano via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Now that everyone has had a chance to see the new website please share your feedback!

Let the team know that their hard work has been appreciated. Also, it is good to hear any areas that may have missed the mark.

Anthony

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