[NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A

[Robert Campbell]

But it takes volts to overcome skin resistance.


Rob

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> You may be right but keep in mind, it's not the voltage that kills you,
> it's the amps.
>
> *Scott A. McHarg*
> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
> Texas A&M University
> PPL - ASEL
> Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Koenig, Tom via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting discussion about the batteries. I thought the rule was 42 V
>> DC.  Are there not serious health implications, i.e.  just how much the
>> body can take? I was always under the impression the rule was safety based
>> and is why the FAI imposed the 42 V rule all those years ago?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am purely going off what is bouncing around in my head…but I doubt, the
>> FAI will change a rule if its safety based?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom
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>>
>>
>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 November 2016 6:09 AM
>> *To:* Dave Burton; General pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m pretty  sure all we’d get is a rapid movement back to Glow which has
>> no bound for displacement and therefore power.  At least in FAI and
>> Masters.
>>
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>>
>> *MARK **ATWOOD*
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>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:23 PM, Dave Burton via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>>
>> Let's cut cost and increase participation by reducing to 8S rather than
>> 12S. Airplanes will be smaller and cheaper, batteries will be cheaper, and
>> we won't have to worry about the weight limit. We won't have to worry about
>> the 2M  biplanes that will be bigger (the logic of that argument about the
>> weight limit gives me a migraine trying to understand how 2 meters becomes
>> bigger).
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Bill
>> Pritchett via NSRCA-discussion
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2016 12:08 PM
>> *To:* Atwood, Mark; Andrew Jesky; General pattern discussion; General
>> pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A
>>
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Adding the option of 12S is about efficiency, being nice to your
>> batteries....
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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>> *From:* "Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion" <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *To:* Andrew Jesky <andrewjesky at gmail.com>; General pattern discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 11, 2016 5:28 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A
>>
>>
>>
>> To Andrew’s point, power is already unlimited in our rules.  Glow is not
>> constrained, only E-power.  So while normally I’m a staunch opponent to any
>> rule change that will alter the designs of our planes and thus obsolete
>> everything and increase costs, I don’t think supporting 12S does that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Power is not currently limited, so allowing 12s doesn’t change the
>> available power.  It merely allows those flying electric to do so more
>> efficiently.  And yes… A YS200 will likely  support even larger Bipes if
>> they can build them and make weight.
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>> *MARK **ATWOOD*
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>> e.  atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
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>>
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>> On Nov 11, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Andrew Jesky via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Then cap the wattage we can reach, But don't worry when YS comes out with
>> there 200 that won't allow the pattern planes to grow as long as there
>> under 5000 without fuel right? 🤔
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
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