[NSRCA-discussion] Sportsman

Sat Nov 5 11:28:37 AKDT 2016

Let's clarify the rules for SBA you're correct about the electric and the four strokes and no tune pipe or retracts however an airplane design can't be any later than January 1st 1976.

CPA - classic-pattern-association retracts  & pipes are allowed and  they fly the published AMA none turn around patterns as they were back in the eighties.

SPA is very big in the SE and parts of TX while CPA has grown on the West Coast.

Yes the foot print is a bit bigger than a ama/ fai pattern contest however the noise is much less than most think, I have heard trainers make more noise than my Novarossi on a Jett muffler.

The only fear I see is if you have a "classic contest" and there is a weather issue during the AMA portion and the classic guys who traveled to fly just classic get bumped, and either have a shorter contest or none at all that would be bad.

Have the Nats dates been set yet?

Scott Anderson

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From: wayg2013 via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: 11/5/16 3:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: jpavlick at idseng.com, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sportsman

  1.  SPA doesn't  allow tuned pipes or retracts, they even allow electric and 4 strokes.
  2.  We have 4 to 5 SPA contest in the DFW area alone. The s.e. has even more of an abundance of SPA flyers.  We dont even have a regular AMA pattern event in the Dallas area anymore.
  3.  I just built an SPA Pattern plane for the cost of a NEU F3A motor.
  4.  I think you could maybe get some interest  from this group.
  5.  SPA is a pattern event, its just a suggestion to get more interest by having  something like a Grand Pattern Event maybe not...
  6.  Im trying to be positive about pattern events. .60 glow motors are not any more annoying then 50cc gassers that fly a bigger footprint.... just sayin.
  7.  The Cajuns NATS is a prime example of how to run a contest. 50 entries, and now they are getting so big they are going to a 3 day event on a weekend. so why doesn't the AMA event happen on a weekend?

Just some thoughts....

Smooth FLying... yah''all

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From: John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: 11/5/16 11:36 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sportsman

Guys don’t get me wrong – I LOVE the pre-turnaround planes. In fact I flew a Junior Kaos in Sportsman when I got started in Pattern. The thing is – I was always under the belief that the pre-turnaround schedules and tuned pipe-with-retracts ships almost put an end to Pattern – because of the noise and amount of space required to have a contest. The answer to this problem was the pregnant guppy airplanes and turnaround schedules. That fixed everything. Things have gotten worse as far as noise tolerance goes so why is it all of a sudden OK to have a pre-turnaround “event” at the NAT’s? Just wondering… ☺

John Pavlick
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From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Don Szczur via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2016 8:31 AM
To: wayg2013 at gmail.com; nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sportsman

I'm in for a classic event.  We'll find some room for a Phoenix 7 between the 2M's.

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From: wayg2013 via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
To: Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sportsman
With as much room as they will have  there on that runway how about asking the SPA guys... and making it a grand pattern event.... id bring my Intruder.... maybe a 2 meter plane... lol.

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From: Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
Date: 11/4/16 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: John Fuqua <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com<mailto:johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sportsman

John,

That has DEFINITELY been put out there by myself and others. There are supporters of this.

Scott

On Friday, November 4, 2016, John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
We know that Sportsman is a provisional event for AMA and is therefore not “offered” at the NATS.    I suggest that NSRCA fully sponsor Sportsman at the Blytheville Nats.     Maybe this will help up the attendance and help up the enthusiasm.
John Fuqua

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Scott A. McHarg
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Texas A&M University
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