[NSRCA-discussion] D4 Scoring System

Thu May 26 12:48:48 AKDT 2016

Vincente,

Are you going to use it at Pittsburgh?  I am hoping you do.  I really like the system.

Mike Harrison 

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:52 AM
To: Matthew Finley <rcfin02 at msn.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Cc: Lewis McNickle <mcnickle1950 at comcast.net>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Scoring System

I am going to try to explain using my own experience using the electronic scribe/judging system.  Yes there is a chance that a computer crash.  I think that chance is the same with any of the scoring programs we have now.  I used the system in a training section 3 weeks ago and worked fine.  We had the usual issues or learning curve that is normal when starting to use a new program.  My way to explain this is that we only changed the way to input the scores values in the scoring program.  Just an interface was added to input the scores directly.  That is all.  If something goes very wrong with the electronic scribe/judging we always could go back to the old  manual system.  I believe that is going to improve many times the current procedure because there will be less chance of errors and because judges will more concentrated in judging than looking down to write the scores and trying to remember what maneuver is next.  Here some recommendations for first time users:

1. Read the manual that Peter provided with detail as you set it up at home.  Practice at home as much as you can with a test contest.   

2. If you have time, it will be good that you do an actual practice day before the contest for the district.  If pilots cannot go to the practice section is good that they watch the video that Peter provided in the web site.  

3. I haven't had chance to check the actual range.  I checked at my field with the new antenna extension as suggested in the manual and didn't have range problem.  I will say that the distance is the average we see around in many fields.

That is all.  Keep those wings level,

On Monday, May 23, 2016, Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> > wrote:

I agree with everything Ron said and asked....

I am still not sold on the unit as it seems to be very temperamental and quite cumbersome to set-up. Maybe I'll change my mind once I actually see it in action. 

I would just really hate to see half a round or an entire round lost because it over heated and crashed.

Sincerely,

Matthew E Finley

QCI Technical Assistant

614-557-3846 <tel:614-557-3846> 

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From: Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> > 
Date: 5/23/2016 8:34 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'Lewis McNickle' <mcnickle1950 at comcast.net <mailto:mcnickle1950 at comcast.net> >, 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> > 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Scoring System 

I definitely think we need a dedicated laptop and all 8 controllers.

What is the maximum range of the antennas that come with the system?

Do we need a better longer range antenna system that is capable of raising the antennas to 10 ft or more?  Some fields may not have shelters that are reasonably close to the flight line.  For example, Weak signals.

My thoughts

Ron

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Lewis McNickle via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:08 PM
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Scoring System

OK, here’s where we stand:
Yesterday we decided to buy an electronic scoring system at a cost of roughly $2000.  The NSRCA will give us $500 towards the system and we agreed to use $1000 of the roughly $1400 we have in our treasury (Dave’s sock) and raise the remaining $500 through donations.
At this point I have received $550 in donations from four donors.
But
I contacted Peter Vogel about exact cost and it turns out that we can buy a system for $2050…the exact amount we have on hand…but that only includes four controllers.  The controllers seem to be the weak link in the system, so if we only have four and one fails we’re out of business.
The system with eight controllers costs $2756.91.
Several guys at the contest offered donations and three have come through already.  If you would like to donate, please contact me off list.

Scott
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