[NSRCA-discussion] F-17.13

[Anthony Romano]

One more maneuver three is half roll, 1 1/4 snaps reverse. 


F-17.03 Roll Combination with consecutive 1⁄2 roll, two 1 1⁄4 snap-rolls, 1⁄2 roll
From inverted, perform consecutively a 1⁄2 roll, a 1 1⁄4 snap-roll, a 1 1⁄4 snap-roll in opposite direction, a 1⁄2 roll, exit inverted.

Anthony

 
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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:13 AM, "Anthony Romano via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stu,
> 
> Moving up?  The aresti and maneuver description shows it exiting inverted. Slide F-17.13-1 shows it correctly but slide F-17.13-2 shows an incorrect upright exit. A real ugly and awkward maneuver that is very hard to see to fly and probably worse to judge. 
> 
> The slide for fourteen also seems to need some revision as well. The description includes a half circle with an integrated 1/4 roll (which I think should be a half roll) in the second radius changing the orientation of the aircraft which is not shown in the slide. 
> 
> F-17.13 Big-M with two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, 1⁄2 roll, 1⁄2 roll integrated, 1⁄2 roll, two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls
> From upright, pull through a 1/4 loop into a vertical upline, perform two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, perform a 1⁄2 knife-edge loop into a vertical downline, perform a 1⁄2 roll, push through a 1⁄2 loop into a vertical upline while performing a 1⁄2 roll integrated, perform a 1⁄2 roll, perform a 1⁄2 knife-edge loop into a vertical downline, perform two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, push through a 1/4 loop, exit inverted.
> F-17.14 Fighter Turn with 1⁄4 roll, 1⁄4 roll integrated, 1⁄4 roll
> From inverted, push through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a 1⁄4 roll, push through a 1⁄2 circle into a 45° upline while performing a 1⁄4 roll integrated to the outside, perform a 1⁄4 roll, push through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. 
> 
> Great to see people are looking at these schedules already so these issues can be worked out. 
> 
> Anthony
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>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 10:39 PM, "Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't see the description but I am having trouble coming out upright as the PP shows.
>> 
>> You enter upright pull to vertical then 2/4 then knife edge over. 1/2 roll on the way down 
>> So you are starting the middle of the M as a push with an integrated 1/2 roll in the half loop.
>> The second upline is like  the first only the 1/2 is going up and 2/4 going down after the knife edge half loop.  I keep coming out inverted.
>> 
>> Stuart
>> 
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>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>>> F-17.13  Has anyone looked at the description and PowerPoint of this maneuver?
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