[NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls

[DaveL322]

Exactly.
A roll is a roll.
A loop is a loop.
A square loop with half rollS has multiple rollS just like a top hat with half rollS.
Changing the name of the maneuver would make it consistent other maneuvers and, consistent with the maneuver description.
Regards,
Dave
Please pardon any spelling errors or brevity.....Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3

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From: James Hiller via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Date: 09/02/2015  2:32 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'Don Ramsey' <donramsey at gmail.com>, 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls 

It's been called that for 30+ years. Eliminating "Roll" in the description makes works for me.From - Cobra Roll, 4 of 8 point rolls on 45 degree lines (U):To - Cobra, with 4 of 8 point rolls on 45 degree lines (U):Jim From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:17 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls BTW, why is Masters maneuver 17 call a “Cobra Roll” anyway?  It has nothing to do with a roll.  A better name might be “Cobra”.  From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:52 AM
To: Jon Lowe; General pattern discussion; Stuart Chale
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls "Loop" equals 360 degrees.  Would not "roll" also equal 360 degrees? In AMA, 2 point roll, 4 point roll, and 8 point roll all convey a full rotation with no change in direction.  Unless AMA adopts the FAI style of describing rolls, it seems a roll should be a roll? Regards, Dave Please pardon any spelling errors or brevity.....Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3

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From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Date: 09/02/2015 9:35 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: NSRCA <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, Stuart Chale <schale1 at outlook.com> 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls 

Just looked at the maneuver description, and it doesn't specify roll direction.

Jon Lowe

On Sep 2, 2015 8:04 AM, Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Is there a specified direction to the second portion of a cobra roll.  
> Roll in same direction as first half of the maneuver or is it pilots choice. 
> M17 has a Cobra roll with 4 of 8 on each half. 
> Thanks, 
> Stuart 
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