[NSRCA-discussion] Registration - Pro-Active

[Budd Engineering]

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> On Dec 23, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't think that is a good idea at all.  It may work in the movies, but in
> actual practice inviting the FAA to your home turf is like inviting the
> police into your own home.  There is no upside to it at all.  Goodwill today
> will in no way prevent an enforcement action in the future.  In fact, it may
> give them reason to start digging.
> 
> Let the AMA and your club leadership handle "educating" and "outreach" to
> them.  The FAA is not your friend.
> 
> --Keith Hoard
> --klhoard at outlook.com
> 
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
> |Behalf Of James Hiller via NSRCA-discussion
> |Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:07
> |To: 'John FORD' <astropattern at yahoo.com>; NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-
> |discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> |Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Registration - Pro-Active
> |
> |My thought was, we'd be better off getting in front of this and
> establishing a
> |working relationship with those tasked with enforcement.
> |
> |Early this morning on CNN there was a news release showing a drone narrowly
> |missing skier. The quad copter crashed right behind him. This was what we
> |would refer to as a commercial operator getting video for the media.
> |
> |If the operator doesn't come forward; are the investigators aware that they
> |aren't to find the operator at a model flying sight maybe 20+ miles away.
> |
> |I think we not only can help but should.
> |
> |Jim
> |
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: John FORD [mailto:astropattern at yahoo.com]
> |Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:15 PM
> |To: General pattern discussion; James Hiller
> |Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Registration - Pro-Active
> |
> |I agree about education.
> |In the event that FAA or local law enforcement shows up at the field, (and
> after
> |they have seen everybody's registration), there may be an opportunity to
> |explain the concept of the club's over flight boundaries, separation of
> heli and
> |fixed wing zones, and the additional concept of the pattern box.
> |
> |Eventually, we can create an image of self-imposed OCD of boundaries,
> zones,
> |and boxes...
> |
> |They will eventually stop wasting their time with us.
> |
> |J
> |
> |
> |
> |On Dec 22, 2015 12:41 PM, James Hiller via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-
> |discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> |>
> |> Scott, I almost responded to your previous post on the NSRCA list on the
> |16th about putting together a paper pointing out the facts, got me thinking
> |about how to deal with registration going forward.
> |>
> |> Registration isn't going away and there is no substitute for knowledge.
> |>
> |> There are many knowledgeable and concerned individuals monitoring this
> |list, so I'll put this out for serious discussion, if that's possible here.
> |>
> |> Responsibility for a compatible environment goes beyond AMA / FAA
> |negations.
> |>
> |> WE, the modeling community need to be Pro-Active.
> |>
> |> We have an understanding of the equipment we use and its evolution and we
> |are everywhere.
> |>
> |> The responsibility for educating first responders and the general public
> falls
> |on US. We probably need more than an educational document focused on the
> |registration rule that can be used to inform first responders, mainly
> firefighters
> |and frontline police officers.
> |>
> |> They will be the first people to deal with an incident involving injury,
> property
> |damage, complaints and or violation of the national airspace.
> |>
> |> I believe we local modelers need to develop a working relationship with
> first
> |responders in an instructional capacity by offering an informative and on
> sight
> |presentation highlighting the equipment, capabilities, differences and how
> to
> |safely deal with it.
> |>
> |> I don't know how much of this information they already have or how up to
> |date it is but I believe our participation would be appreciated.
> |>
> |> The AMA should oversee the development of presentation material and
> |instructor guidelines in an effort to maintain national continuity. A power
> point
> |presentation by involved users is likely to be more effective than just
> sending a
> |document without an opportunity for discussion.
> |>
> |> The downside is keeping up with RPV development and their capabilities
> and
> |the need for ongoing informative seminars.
> |>
> |> Hopefully first responders with prior knowledge would help direct
> |investigation beyond a visit to approved model flying sights.
> |>
> |> Jim Hiller
> |
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