[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21

Mon Dec 14 14:55:16 AKST 2015

Honestly, I think thats one of the use-cases the FAA didn't think through
real well...

My belief is that this whole thing is about creating a sense of
accountability for the "rogue" users (I'm not willing to give them the term
pilot because they don't deserve it) who do stupid shit like flying around
a wildfire and preventing Calfire airborne response for 20+ minutes, etc.
It's about dealing with the anti-AMA guys who fly 120+mph EDFs weighing 6+
lbs over an active soccer game at a local park, it's about dealing with the
dipshits who fly their drone on the takeoff/approach path of an active full
scale airport in hopes of "cool footage".  The AMA field flyers are the
least of the FAA's worries and we're blowing it out of proportion.  Yes,
it's a stupid regulation, but let's comply where we can and show ourselves
to be the responsible modelers the AMA says we are.

For the foreign guys, first of all, sorry for the needless red tape (though
I think a similar thing is coming for the BMFA guys in the UK and it would
not surprise me to see a more sensible version of this from the Canadian
guys).  But if I were CD'ing a contest and some guys came down from the
Great White North, I'd happily hook them up with some temporary form of my
own registration # to put in their planes for the purposes of flying at the
contest because I know them to be responsible pilots.

Peter+

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Anthony Cornacchione via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Legit question with an unknown answer:  how will this impact international
> (IMAC Worlds in Muncie 2018) NATS with international competitors (NATS News
> this year had a nice write up) and our local contests which have had the
> occasional Canadian wander south?
>
> On Dec 14, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Dana Beaton via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Boaters register their pleasure craft, fishermen & hunters buy licenses,
> some folks even register their firearms! So what? Are we going to give up
> our hobby just because of a tiny pice of red tape? Nope! Just keep flying.
> The bad actors who misuse their aircraft will run afoul local authorities
> sure enough, that's their problem, not ours.  We need to continue to set
> the good example though our good flying.  Good flying will carry the day.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 14, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Dave Burton via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> So, just shut up and drink the Kool-Aid?
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Derek
> Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 6:15 PM
> *To:* Atwood, Mark; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>
>
>
> Yep.... yep... yep.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Hasn’t that private information ship already sailed?  We all register cars
> and think nothing of it.  Heck, we even took classes, got educated, and
> were tested for a license before we could own or operate a car and we have
> to renew that every four years and prove we’re still physically capable
> (minimal proof admittedly).  Personally not sure a gun should be much
> different but don’t want to start that discussion (especially since I’m
> generally pro gun…just not pro redneck hill jack survivalist conspiracy
> theorist) but not registering to fly airplanes?  Really?    We trade more
> info internationally downloading a Facebook app.    Also, we’re already
> registered… just with the AMA, not the USA.  And yes, the AMA is trying to
> make that our ONLY registration, but that’s just a proposal at this point.
>
>
>
>
> Guys… we already do ALL of this.  Our AMA # is on the plane, we follow
> safety rules, blah blah blah.  This is a very minor inconvenience and if
> the AMA proposal to use our AMA# for our registration number it won’t even
> be that.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Dave Burton via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Now is the time for massive civil disobedience!
>
> I don't think I'd register my planes any more than I'd register my guns.
>
> Too bad AMA has no clout like the NRA.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Robert L.
> Beaubien via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 1:23 PM
> *To:* Scott McHarg; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>
>
>
> Morons at work….
>
>
>
> -           Robert Beaubien
>
> -           DronePlastics.com <http://droneplastics.com/>
>
>
>
> “Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X.  She's never coming
> back and don't ask Y.”
>
>
>
> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Scott McHarg
> via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>
>
>
> Well, here it is boys and girls.  It's official and starts next Monday.
> The link is for the FAQ's of what's happening.
>
>
>
>  You only have to register once and you don't have to individually
> register all of your models.
>
> You must be able to provide proof of registration and have it on you when
> flying.
>
> You must have your Registration # (not going to be a N number) in your
> airplane where it is legible and accessible without the use of tools (aka
> under your canopy).
>
> If you sell a model, you should update your records. (I don't completely
> understand this if we aren't registering all of our models individually
> but, OK)
>
> Registration is $5 but you'll get that back if you register in the first
> 30 days, I believe.
>
>
>
> Have a look at the link and prepare to be upset.....
>
>
>
> http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/
>
>
>
> *Scott A. McHarg*
>
> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>
> Texas A&M University
>
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