[NSRCA-discussion] Pittsburg, KS contest

John Ford jsf106 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 25 05:05:05 AKDT 2014


Actually, I think it is excellent commentary, and very valuable to all Masters pilots. We all tend to zig instead of zag at more or less the same places. 

Thanks, 

John


On Jun 25, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Dan,
> 
> That was excellent.  Thank you.  I am going to print it and use it in the next practice flights.  
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> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
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> 2014-06-24 20:45 GMT-05:00 Wayne Galligan via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>:
> NOW WE KNOW!!!!
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> Dan Curtis via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> I am so sorry this was obviously meant to go to the individual not the list.
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> Dan
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> On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:13 PM, Dan Curtis via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Vince,
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> Here is my scoring as best as I can remember.  I think it should be pretty accurate.
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> I noticed that  my scoring was pretty consistent for both rounds judged and seem to be pretty close to the other judges.  Guess that is a good thing.
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> I am not going to say much on the 9 or above scores, except I wish I could do that as well.
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> The clover, I believe your second looping segment was always smaller than your first one and your exit was a little higher than your entry.
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> Slow Rolls reversed, it seems that you were losing heading a bit during the rolls, and the hesitation between the two was a pit exaggerated, centering was close but not perfect.
> 
> Triangle loop, if memory serves your angles over the top seemed a bit shallow to me, and your bottom roll was a bit past center each time.
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> Stall turn with 2/4 and 4 pt., this one it seems that you were off a bit on the first point and this put your other 3 points down also off. 
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> Top Hat, I think you missed the exit on the snap by a little.
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> Eight sided loop, First round seemed good, don't remember it very well though, fifth round you changed angle on last two angles and came in to the bottom flat and wind moved you off center.
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> Reverse Cuban, your up lines were steep on all of them. One of the 4/8 segments was not pronounced, kind of sloughed off a point or two.
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> Knife edge reversed, each segment was a bit different in length and centering
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> 3/8 fig eight, bottom loop finished above the starting point each time, fifth round the top was a bit large too.
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> Spins, centering on fifth round, and missed the exit on the first round.
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> I hope that you concur with my memory. 
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> Nothing at all was bad on either flight and the deductions were small.  I was actually surprised that you were not in second after the end of all the rounds.  My scoring would have had you there I believe.  Your first flight was as good as you were flying in Tulsa, the second was down a tad but not much.  I didn't get to see the other flights so I can't comment on them.
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> Hope this helps some, maybe we can critique each other on Friday at Hillsdale.
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> Dan
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> On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:46 PM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Yes, I agree with all been said.  it was a fun weekend.  It was a pleasure to help Ihncheol and his club including his wife.  
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> I am going to take the chance to invite to the next contest in Kansas City.  I am attaching the flyer in reduced pdf.  Probably won't go but it makes sense to try.  If you would like to get the flyer or get more information just e-mail me directly at vincebrc at gmail.com
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> Best, 
> 
> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
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> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:46 AM, David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> I can’t add any comments to what has already been said other than chime in by saying how much I enjoyed this contest.
> The flying was interesting and as usual I learned several things that will hopefully be useful.
> Thanks again to Joe with trimming advice and to Dan and Mike for their judging comments, Vince for his untiring work on judging assignments, and to Ihncheol and his wife for their dedication to their club, Pattern and this contest.
>  
> Can’t forget the extra chicken….Mike will be gnawing on them bones for days……
>  
> David Harmon
> Sperry, OK
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> From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Michael Harrison, DDS via NSRCA-discussion
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 7:01 AM
> To: 'Ihncheol Park'; 'General pattern discussion'
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pittsburg, KS contest
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> Well spoken Dan, I really enjoy the contest and the fellowship.  You all make me feel very welcome and I really enjoy the place.  Very nice site and good town.
>  
> Love the chicken!
> Mike
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> From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ihncheol Park via NSRCA-discussion
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:58 AM
> To: Dan Curtis; General Pattern Discussion; General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pittsburg, KS contest
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> Dan,
>  
> Thank you very much for the kind words!!
>  
> I really appreciate all of you that came over for the contest.
> Honestly, this year was the hardest to prepare for the contest especially on resources.  However, those who were available did as much as they could.  I have been trying to add more members to the club, but it isn't that easy. It is hard, but I love the Pattern.
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> I would like to thank Beth Lavey for scoring process with my wife Youngjoo.  Also to  Vince Bortone and Robert Green for working on judging assignment.  Experiences do count in that!!
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> I hope all of you got back home safe and sound.
>  
> Thank you again,
>  
> Ihncheol Park
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> From: Dan Curtis via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>.
> To: General Pattern Discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 8:07 PM
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Pittsburg, KS contest
>  
> I was going to give a short well done to the Pittsburg RC club and to Ihncheol Park for hosting the annual contest this weekend.  It was fun and competitive as always but this year I think it might just deserve a few more remarks.
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> Their club is going through a down cycle in membership and this contest materialized due to the dedication of Ihncheol Park.  He loves and enjoys are hobby/sport as much as anyone and with his determination and drive the contest was scheduled and conducted.  The town is small, the club does not have an abundance of members but the contest that is held each year is as much fun as any other that we attend.  I wanted to think Ihncheol for his efforts and I also would like to extend my personal thanks to all that attended (19).  Especially those that made long treks to get there.  Art, Mike, Wayne, Robert, Joe and everyone else that came.  Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Nebraska and Texas were represented.  I hope you all had as much fun and felt the hospitality as much as I did.  All of the contests and the wives that were in attendance jumped in and did anything and everything that could help make this contest a success, and succeed they did.  It makes one proud to be  a part of our pattern community, I am sure we have all seen situations similar and have had similar thoughts.
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> Enough of the soap box, but thanks so much to everyone for making the contest this weekend.  I am sure the Pittsburg club hopes to see all of us again next year.
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> Dan Curtis
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