<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Actually, I think it is excellent commentary, and very valuable to all Masters pilots. We all tend to zig instead of zag at more or less the same places. <div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div><br></div><div>John</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 25, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dan,<br><br></div>That was excellent. Thank you. I am going to print it and use it in the next practice flights. <br><br><br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-06-24 20:45 GMT-05:00 Wayne Galligan via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">NOW WE KNOW!!!!<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><br>Dan Curtis via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div><span>I am so sorry this was obviously meant to go to the individual not the list.</span></div>
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<span>Dan</span></div> <div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:13 PM, Dan Curtis via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<span>Here is my scoring as best as I can
remember. I think it should be pretty accurate.</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; ">
<span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>I noticed that my scoring was pretty consistent for both rounds judged and seem to be pretty close to the other judges. Guess that is a good thing.</span></div>
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<span>I am not going to say much on the 9 or above scores, except I wish I could do that as well.</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; ">
<span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>The clover, I believe your second looping segment was always smaller than your first one and your exit was a little higher than your entry.</span></div>
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<span>Slow Rolls reversed, it seems that you were losing heading a bit during the rolls, and the hesitation between the
two was a pit exaggerated, centering was close but not perfect.</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; ">
<span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>Triangle loop, if memory serves your angles over the top seemed a bit shallow to me, and your bottom roll was a bit past center each time.</span></div>
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<span>Stall turn with 2/4 and 4 pt., this one it seems that you were off a bit on the first point and this put your other 3 points down also off. </span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; ">
<span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>Top Hat, I think you missed the exit on the snap by a little.</span></div>
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<span>Eight sided loop, First round seemed good, don't remember it very well though, fifth round you changed angle on last two angles and came in to the bottom flat and wind moved you off center.</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; ">
<span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>Reverse Cuban, your up lines were steep on all of them. One of the 4/8 segments was not pronounced, kind of sloughed
off a point or two.</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span><br clear="none">
</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>Knife edge reversed, each segment was a bit different in length and centering</span></div>
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<span>3/8 fig eight, bottom loop finished above the starting point each time, fifth
round the top was a bit large too.</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; ">
<span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>Spins, centering on fifth round, and missed the exit on the first round.</span></div>
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<span>I hope that
you concur with my memory. </span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span><br clear="none">
</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>Nothing at all was bad on either flight and the deductions were small. I was actually surprised that you were not in second after the end of all the rounds. My scoring would have had you there I believe. Your first flight was as good as you were flying in Tulsa, the second was down a tad but not much. I didn't get to see the other flights so I can't comment on them.</span></div>
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<span>Hope this helps some, maybe we can critique each other on Friday at Hillsdale.</span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; ">
<span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent; "><span>Dan</span></div>
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<div><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:46 PM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
</font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Yes, I agree with all been said. it was a fun weekend. It was a pleasure to help Ihncheol and his club including his wife. <br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>I am going to take the chance to invite to the next contest in Kansas City. I am
attaching the flyer in reduced pdf. Probably won't go but it makes sense to try. If you would like to get the flyer or get more information just e-mail me directly at <a href="mailto:vincebrc@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">vincebrc@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>Best, <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="all"><div>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</div>
<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:46 AM, David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><span style="font-size:11pt">I can’t add any comments to what has already been said other than chime in by saying how much I enjoyed this contest.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt">The flying was interesting and as usual I learned several things that will hopefully be useful.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks again to Joe with trimming advice and to Dan and Mike for their judging comments, Vince for his untiring work on judging assignments, and to Ihncheol and his wife for their dedication to their club, Pattern and this contest.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt">Can’t forget the extra chicken….Mike will be gnawing on them bones for days……<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><div><b><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></div><div><b><span style="font-size:11pt">David Harmon<u></u><u></u></span></b></div>
<div><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Sperry, OK<u></u><u></u></span></b></div></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dr. Michael Harrison, DDS via NSRCA-discussion<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 23, 2014 7:01 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> 'Ihncheol Park'; 'General pattern discussion'</span></div><div><div><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pittsburg, KS contest<u></u><u></u></div>
</div></div></div><div><div><u></u> <u></u></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt">Well spoken Dan, I really enjoy the contest and the fellowship. You all make me feel very welcome and I really enjoy the place. Very nice site and good town.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt">Love the chicken!<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt">Mike <u></u><u></u></span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt"> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ihncheol Park via NSRCA-discussion<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 23, 2014 12:58 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Dan Curtis; General Pattern Discussion; General pattern discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pittsburg, KS contest<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14pt">Dan,<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size:14pt">Thank you very much for the kind words!!<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size:14pt">I really appreciate all of you that came over for the contest.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div><span style="font-size:14pt">Honestly, this year was the hardest to prepare for the contest especially on resources. However, those who were available did as much as they could. I have been trying to add more members to the club, but it isn't that easy. It is hard, but I love the Pattern.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size:14pt">I would like to thank Beth Lavey for scoring process with my wife Youngjoo. Also to Vince Bortone and Robert Green for working on judging assignment. Experiences do count in that!!<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size:14pt">I hope all of you got back home safe and sound.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size:14pt">Thank you again,<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size:14pt">Ihncheol Park<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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</div><div><div><div style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt"> Dan Curtis via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>.<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> General Pattern Discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 22, 2014 8:07 PM<br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Pittsburg, KS contest</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div style="background:white"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><div style="background:white">
<span>I was going to give a short well done to the Pittsburg RC club and to Ihncheol Park for hosting the annual contest this weekend. It was fun and competitive as always but this year I think it might just deserve a few more remarks.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div style="background:white"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="background:white">
<span>Their club is going through a down cycle in membership and this contest materialized due to the dedication of Ihncheol Park. He loves and enjoys are hobby/sport as much as anyone and with his determination and drive the contest was scheduled and conducted. The town is small, the club does not have an abundance of members but the contest that is held each year is as much fun as any other that we attend. I wanted to think Ihncheol for his efforts and I also would like to extend my personal thanks to all that attended (19). Especially those that made long treks to get there. Art, Mike, Wayne, Robert, Joe and everyone else that came. Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Nebraska and Texas were represented. I hope you all had as much fun and felt the hospitality as much as I did. All of the contests and the wives that were in attendance jumped in and did anything and everything that could help
make this contest a success, and succeed they did. It makes one proud to be a part of our pattern community, I am sure we have all seen situations similar and have had similar thoughts.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div style="background:white"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="background:white">
<span>Enough of the soap box, but thanks so much to everyone for making the contest this weekend. I am sure the Pittsburg club hopes to see all of us again next year.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div><div style="background:white"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="background:white">
<span>Dan Curtis<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="background:white"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
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