[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Virtual Caller for iOS

Doug Harvel spa364 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 15 17:58:39 AKST 2014


Thank you also Jon, it is wonderful to have friends like you
and Ron Van Pootenberg!!!!!

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Doug Harvel <spa364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Sir General Ronald Van Pootenberg, your quite a gentleman.
> Now I have turned off my caller and cant get it to work at all, I'm sure
> Van Putte put a hex on it some way....ha
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ask him what BOPOD stands for.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *Date: *December 15, 2014 at 8:16:15 PM CST
>> *To: *Lance <patterndude at tx.rr.com>, General pattern discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Subject: **Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Virtual Caller for iOS*
>> *From: *Doug Harvel via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Reply-To: *Doug Harvel <spa364 at gmail.com>, General pattern discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>
>> Peter I have today downloaded the RC Caller on my iPhone, and I
>> love it. In your demo you showed how to go back by tilting your
>> transmitter. I will be using my iPhone with earphones and using the
>> voice mode. To go back you used the tilting the transmitter. Guess I
>> am just not smart enough to go back using voice. Can it be done by
>> voice and if so how....going forward is even easy for me, just say
>> NEXT and away I go.....Thanks .....Doug Harvel aka BOPOD
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lance via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok this helps a lot . By "headphone button" I assume you mean "calling
>>> enabled ". I am now able to change the starting orientation and then turn
>>> off/on calling enabled to rest the neutral point. I think you are
>>> successfully calculating rotational angles because it seems I can establish
>>> a neutral point with the phone not necessarily flat or vertical but
>>> somewhere in between.
>>> I had more success this time but found that it seems pretty sensitive to
>>> returning to that initial pose. Returning to a position close to the
>>> original can lead to missed or extra advances to the "next" maneuver. So
>>> the sensitivity request is really two sensitivities. One for how much
>>> change determines a "next" event and another for what is considered a
>>> successful return to neutral pose. Possibly consider resetting the neutral
>>> orientation every time it successfully returns to neutral so the delta for
>>> a change event is always measured from "zero"
>>>
>>> This is a great platform and pulling sequences from a server is good
>>> design. These polish suggestions will make it fit more pilot personal
>>> styles more easily. Thanks
>>>
>>> Lance
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Lance!
>>>
>>> I do, in fact, sample the orientation of the device when you click the
>>> headphone button, and adding a sensitivity option is definitely on my to do
>>> list.
>>>
>>> In a vest pocket, device in 'natural' vertical orientation, yaw would
>>> probably be your best bet.  It's very important that you be set and in
>>> position to fly when you click the headphone button to start calling.
>>>
>>> What may work better for you is to strap the phone to a wrist so you can
>>> twist your wrist. Way up there at your vest pocket a slight motion of your
>>> upper body will be amplified.
>>>
>>> I know several people have mounted the phone to their handheld TX and
>>> successfully called themselves through a flight.
>>>
>>> Peter+
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:06 AM -0800, "Lance" <patterndude at tx.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Nice job! I don't fly with a tray but assumed I could slide the phone
>>>> into a breast pocket (vertical default orientation) and tilt my body to
>>>> advance to the next maneuver but it's not working well. I've tried all the
>>>> tilt axes but the caller just runs away calling maneuvers too fast. I
>>>> suspect you assume the default orientation is that the phone will be flat
>>>> horizontal or close to it so its confused when the phone is vertical.
>>>> Maybe when the user selects their roll axis you can sample the current
>>>> orientation to set the default position?
>>>> Also it would be nice to have a slider to adjust the sensitivity. A
>>>> very still pilot could use just a small tilt to indicate whereas a pilot
>>>> using more body English needs less sensitivity.
>>>>
>>>> Lance
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Given that every sequence is changing for next year, it seems a good
>>>> time to introduce people to the virtual caller application I listed on the
>>>> Apple App Store yesterday:
>>>>
>>>> Video of it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOEfi3VqnCQ
>>>> Get it on the Apple App Store: https://t.co/aIBFvQBsuI
>>>>
>>>> Available now for a limited time at $1.99, price will increase soon to
>>>> $2.99 This will work with every iOS device out there -- iPod touch, iPhone,
>>>> iPad Mini, etc. (though I wouldn't want to put an iPad on the bottom of my
>>>> transmitter to use the tilt control!) but the screen format is optimized
>>>> for iPhone/iPod touch.  You will need to be on the network the first time
>>>> you run so it can download the sequences from the cloud.
>>>>
>>>> *All profits go to F3A Team USA* -- if you are Canadian and buy it,
>>>> shoot me a note and I'll apply profits from your purchase to *F3A Team
>>>> Canada*!  If you prefer the donation to go to F3P Team USA, shoot me a
>>>> note and I'll apply the profits to *F3P* :-)
>>>>
>>>> I*'ll add $1.00 per review of the app that hits the app store this
>>>> week to my donation!*  Be sure to mention in the review if you
>>>> fly/support F3A or F3P (or both).
>>>>
>>>> This is the product of 100's of hours of development, not so much
>>>> because the app is complex or hard (it wasn't) but getting a method of
>>>> controlling the caller that works in field conditions took a lot of trial &
>>>> error.
>>>>
>>>> Your feedback is welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Peter+
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Director, Fixed Wing Flight Training
>>>> Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark
>>>> Associate Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X
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