[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Virtual Caller for iOS

Mon Dec 15 17:56:33 AKST 2014

Thanks Sir General Ronald Van Pootenberg, your quite a gentleman.
Now I have turned off my caller and cant get it to work at all, I'm sure
Van Putte put a hex on it some way....ha

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
> Ask him what BOPOD stands for.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *Date: *December 15, 2014 at 8:16:15 PM CST
> *To: *Lance <patterndude at tx.rr.com>, General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject: **Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Virtual Caller for iOS*
> *From: *Doug Harvel via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> >
> *Reply-To: *Doug Harvel <spa364 at gmail.com>, General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>
> Peter I have today downloaded the RC Caller on my iPhone, and I
> love it. In your demo you showed how to go back by tilting your
> transmitter. I will be using my iPhone with earphones and using the
> voice mode. To go back you used the tilting the transmitter. Guess I
> am just not smart enough to go back using voice. Can it be done by
> voice and if so how....going forward is even easy for me, just say
> NEXT and away I go.....Thanks .....Doug Harvel aka BOPOD
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lance via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ok this helps a lot . By "headphone button" I assume you mean "calling
>> enabled ". I am now able to change the starting orientation and then turn
>> off/on calling enabled to rest the neutral point. I think you are
>> successfully calculating rotational angles because it seems I can establish
>> a neutral point with the phone not necessarily flat or vertical but
>> somewhere in between.
>> I had more success this time but found that it seems pretty sensitive to
>> returning to that initial pose. Returning to a position close to the
>> original can lead to missed or extra advances to the "next" maneuver. So
>> the sensitivity request is really two sensitivities. One for how much
>> change determines a "next" event and another for what is considered a
>> successful return to neutral pose. Possibly consider resetting the neutral
>> orientation every time it successfully returns to neutral so the delta for
>> a change event is always measured from "zero"
>>
>> This is a great platform and pulling sequences from a server is good
>> design. These polish suggestions will make it fit more pilot personal
>> styles more easily. Thanks
>>
>> Lance
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Lance!
>>
>> I do, in fact, sample the orientation of the device when you click the
>> headphone button, and adding a sensitivity option is definitely on my to do
>> list.
>>
>> In a vest pocket, device in 'natural' vertical orientation, yaw would
>> probably be your best bet.  It's very important that you be set and in
>> position to fly when you click the headphone button to start calling.
>>
>> What may work better for you is to strap the phone to a wrist so you can
>> twist your wrist. Way up there at your vest pocket a slight motion of your
>> upper body will be amplified.
>>
>> I know several people have mounted the phone to their handheld TX and
>> successfully called themselves through a flight.
>>
>> Peter+
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:06 AM -0800, "Lance" <patterndude at tx.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Nice job! I don't fly with a tray but assumed I could slide the phone
>>> into a breast pocket (vertical default orientation) and tilt my body to
>>> advance to the next maneuver but it's not working well. I've tried all the
>>> tilt axes but the caller just runs away calling maneuvers too fast. I
>>> suspect you assume the default orientation is that the phone will be flat
>>> horizontal or close to it so its confused when the phone is vertical.
>>> Maybe when the user selects their roll axis you can sample the current
>>> orientation to set the default position?
>>> Also it would be nice to have a slider to adjust the sensitivity. A very
>>> still pilot could use just a small tilt to indicate whereas a pilot using
>>> more body English needs less sensitivity.
>>>
>>> Lance
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Given that every sequence is changing for next year, it seems a good
>>> time to introduce people to the virtual caller application I listed on the
>>> Apple App Store yesterday:
>>>
>>> Video of it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOEfi3VqnCQ
>>> Get it on the Apple App Store: https://t.co/aIBFvQBsuI
>>>
>>> Available now for a limited time at $1.99, price will increase soon to
>>> $2.99 This will work with every iOS device out there -- iPod touch, iPhone,
>>> iPad Mini, etc. (though I wouldn't want to put an iPad on the bottom of my
>>> transmitter to use the tilt control!) but the screen format is optimized
>>> for iPhone/iPod touch.  You will need to be on the network the first time
>>> you run so it can download the sequences from the cloud.
>>>
>>> *All profits go to F3A Team USA* -- if you are Canadian and buy it,
>>> shoot me a note and I'll apply profits from your purchase to *F3A Team
>>> Canada*!  If you prefer the donation to go to F3P Team USA, shoot me a
>>> note and I'll apply the profits to *F3P* :-)
>>>
>>> I*'ll add $1.00 per review of the app that hits the app store this week
>>> to my donation!*  Be sure to mention in the review if you fly/support
>>> F3A or F3P (or both).
>>>
>>> This is the product of 100's of hours of development, not so much
>>> because the app is complex or hard (it wasn't) but getting a method of
>>> controlling the caller that works in field conditions took a lot of trial &
>>> error.
>>>
>>> Your feedback is welcome!
>>>
>>> Peter+
>>>
>>> --
>>> Director, Fixed Wing Flight Training
>>> Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark
>>> Associate Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X
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