[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed sequences

James Hiller jnhiller at earthlink.net
Tue Aug 19 00:15:48 AKDT 2014


Advanced is marked as a change for 94-95. 92-93 was 15 maneuvers with a
total k = 31. Difficulty progression within a class is not new.
Jim
 
From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:21 PM
To: Dave Lockhart; 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed sequences
 

>From the rulebook. 94-95. Actually describes both 1/2 roll and 1/4 roll





>From an AAM article in 1969. I never saw anyone fly this maneuver in 1969 or
for many years afterwards and it was optional. Picture seems to be pretty
clear that it was intended to be a rolling loop, not a loop with a quick 1/2
roll every 90 degrees.


On 8/18/2014 10:50 PM, Dave Lockhart wrote:
I am quite certain the #14 Cobra is a misprint
it should read ½ rolls
.which
is what the diagram shows.
 
My participation does not go back to the days before retracts
.but I’d be
very surprised if the two roll loop was 2 integrated rolls.
 
Regards,

Dave
 
From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:35 AM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed sequences
 
Advanced and Masters are not our entry classes and should not affect future
participation. Those new to pattern should begin in either Sportsman or
Intermediate depending on skill level. When a flyer feels he is ready to
move up, he will try flying the next class in practice. If it is too
difficult to even see a way to fly that sequence reasonably, then that pilot
was not ready to move up and should stay in his current class another year
(or more). We do not lose people because they stayed in their current class,
we lose them because they moved up when not ready and find they are
outclassed without the vision, coordination, time to practice (or name your
reason) to be competitive. Not competitive for winning, just competitive. 
Both Masters and Advanced can, and probably will be, changed next year. Any
substantial problems can be addressed then. Many have tested these
sequences. All have have flown them successfully, if not always happily. We
can go on and on about ugly maneuvers, difficulty levels and dislike of
change but that happens every cycle. 

Just for comparison here are Advanced and Masters from 20 years ago. Overall
both appear somewhat easier than the current sequences we are flying but not
a lot. Total KFactors are a bit lower. Also we are flying many of the same
maneuvers. I hope you noticed the knife edge top of the cobra in masters. If
you go back even further you can find a two roll loop in the days before
retracts...

John Gayer



 
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