[NSRCA-discussion] JUDGING VIDEO
Jay S. Gerber
jaysgerber at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 11 12:54:55 AKDT 2013
John, ..let me know if a DVD or some other format would be best for getting
this video on the web site. Films has agreed to transfer from the masters
to whatever medium you need. I'll cover the costs which should be nominal.
I'll ship the masters to them on Monday and it will take them a few days to
process the request and then ship it back or to whoever you suggest should
get the copy.
Jay
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Joe, not sure which or any of the masters are needed? There is also the
possibility that I can have whatever it is made for the group by tapping
into some old friends down at NFL Films.
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Jay, I will be at the Lehigh Valley RC contest this weekend.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 23:36:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging and JUDGING VIDEO
John, et al...If it would be helpful, I have all the Master tapes of the
judging video..formats are 1" mixed masters, Digital Betacam (pro format),
VHS and DVD. Mark is right, it's dated (produced in 1992) but "on point"
and perhaps useful for someone just getting into pattern as well as those
that are going to do some judging.
Let me know if any of this would be useful and I can either ship them to
someone or for security purposes, Joe is not too far away and I can get them
to him before he leaves for the NATS..(I assume he's going)..:>)
Alternatively, let me know what Scott may need to get it into a digital
format.
Jay
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I plan too. Just need time. Need to recode in a smaller digital format.
Jon
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From: "Joe Lachowski" <jlachow at hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 8:00 pm
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
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Maybe its time to put the video in a downloadable format on the NSRCA
website that can be downloaded to ones PC so one can watch it at ones
leisure.
From: atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:55:08 -0400
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
I do think we need to make an effort to get our schedules on the same cycle.
This has added tremendous confusion to the process, and basically requires
people to pay annually to get their judging certified. What's more, it can
cause grief for the Nat's CD since people can be certified to judge AMA and
not FAI or vice versa in which case they're limited in how they can staff
the judging. Our nats registration doesn't say anything about having to
be certified in both AMA and FAI classes.
I also think there's some merit in differentiating between original
certification and re-certification. My son (16) certified on line the first
time and really felt like he didn't know what he was doing. He knew the
rules by taking the test, but with no video, no discussion, no ability to
ask questions of a group, it was minimally helpful. This year we attended
one of the judging certification classes where he saw the original video
(outdated, but still very on point and very valuable if you're seeing it for
the first time) and sat through some good discussion with other new pattern
pilots and really came away with a much better understanding of how we
judge. I on the other, took away very little, but was able to provide
quite a bit to the new people in the group.
Recertification is a different matter. emphasizing changes to the rules, and
highlighting changes to the sequences. If anything, the current test almost
hides those changes amid all the other rules we've followed for years. I
realize I'm advocating for more work, but I think getting away from the cert
classes for beginners is a mistake.
Mark Atwood
Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President
5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124
Direct: 440.229.2502 | Fax: 440.684.3102
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Jon Carter <joncarter60 at comcast.net
<mailto:joncarter60 at comcast.net%3cmailto:joncarter60 at comcast.net>
<mailto:joncarter60 at comcast.net>> wrote:
The new FAI rule book will be published on 1/1/14. That rule book will be
good for two years. (2014 & 2015) The current rule book expires on 12/31/13,
just like our FAI certifications!
Thanks
Jon Carter
Joe Lachowski <jlachow at hotmail.com
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<mailto:jlachow at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Which means we are all certifiable<g>
Nuts that is.
Which brings up another question. The FAI rule book is good through 2015?
Does that mean we do not need to recertify until the new book comes out for
2016?
If that is the case, certifications should be good through the end of 2015
not 2013?
________________________________
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:35:32 -0500
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So basically now we need to recertify annually?
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com
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wrote:
Because AMA and FAI are on different rules cycles, a year apart. Happened
several cycles ago. AMA Masters and Advanced sequences and rules changed
for this year. FAI changed in 2012.
Jon
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Thanks Jon, but how does that happen?
C
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com
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wrote:
Chuck,
I was partially incorrect. You show as current for FAI, but not AMA.
For all,
As Derek said, you MUST sign in to the site to see the judges list. You do
NOT have to be an NSRCA member to get a login. On the pull down, you can
sort by various means (last name, district, etc).
Keith,
It's only a flesh wound...
Jon
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Time for some Monty python quotes.
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:38 AM, "Keith Hoard" <klhoard at hotmail.com
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<mailto:klhoard at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Uh, huh . . . feeling oppressed yet?
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Ok I don't see where that is Jon. I see a drop down on the top that leads to
the wrong list like John but nothing on the right. Am I on the right
site?????
Also I thought it had to be everyother year like Chuck and I certified
before the Nats last year. It's every year now?
Thanks, Mike
Mike Mueller
F3Aunlimited<http://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/mo/www.f3aunlimited.com>
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On the right hand side of the screen there is a pull down menu where you
select the Certified Judges list. Not real obvious, I will admit.
Jon
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Scott/Derek
If you go to the website and click on judging/certification/certified judges
list you get this list "This list will produce a list of all registered
members of the website that have verified their email addresses. This is
not a list of NSRCA members."'
What you do not get is a list of certified judges. For that you must go to
Lists/membership lists. ????????????
John
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
There are still quite a few people attending the NATS who have not taken the
judging certification test. You are REQUIRED to be certified to judge at
the NATS. If you are not certified, that means you miss a judging session
and will lose your highest round.
Please take the time, if you have not done so to go to the NSRCA site and
complete the judging test...
Arch
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