[NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts

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Wed Feb 27 03:58:26 AKST 2013


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On 2/26/2013 8:21 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
> +1 what?
>
> +1 db is a lot.
>
> +1 on a 10 scale is still pretty big
>
> Enquiring minds (who have nothing else to do) want to know.
>
> Ron
>
> On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Dave Lockhart wrote:
>
>> +1
>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
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>> *flyintexan at att.net <mailto:flyintexan at att.net>
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>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts
>>
>> How soon before we hire figure skating judges?
>>
>> -Mark
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>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Andre Bouchard" <txf3a at entouch.net <mailto:txf3a at entouch.net>>
>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts
>> Date: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 11:14 PM
>>
>> Don,
>>
>>
>> This question of course relates to the Annex 5B -- F3 R/C Aerobatic 
>> Power Model Aircraft Manoeuvre Execution Guide, Section 5B.9...
>>
>> 5B.9 *SMOOTHNESS AND GRACEFULNESS OF THE MANOEUVRE*
>>
>> "Concerns the harmonic appearance of an entire manoeuvre. Ie 
>> maintaining a constant flight speed throughout the various manoeuvre 
>> components, like in climbing and descending sections contributes 
>> significantly to smoothness and gracefulness. Radii performed very 
>> tight or very loose, though being of equal size within one manoeuvre 
>> may be subject for downgrading Smoothness and Gracefulness."
>>
>> If the radii are very abrupt the maneuver would not be "smooth and 
>> graceful."  Similarly, if the radii are very loose the maneuver 
>> elements would likely not be well defined (not graceful?).  I think 
>> "very" is the key word - beyond expectation, not normally seen, etc. 
>>  Extending that thought, I think this would be a uncommon downgrade.
>>
>> Stating the obvious here...there are no technical criteria for what 
>> constitutes "very tight or very loose" radii.  The criteria are 
>> subjective.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andre Bouchard
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:13 PM, tocdon at netscape.net 
>> <mailto:tocdon at netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>     A question on radius judging.  Tight radius (or loose radius)
>>     manevuer segments are subject to downgrade in FAI.  What
>>     constitutes a tight radius?  Physically tight (in feet, for
>>     example), or tight (fast speed through the radius giving the
>>     impression that the plane is pulling excessive g's, however that
>>     is interpreted).   A slow flying radius could be extremely tight,
>>     for example the last radius at the bottom of the triangle loop
>>     (135 degree pull) or figure Z.
>>     Best regards,
>>     Don
>>
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