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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Phil Spelt, KCRC Past President
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On 2/26/2013 8:21 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
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type="cite"><base href="x-msg://318/">+1 what?
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<div>+1 db is a lot. </div>
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<div>+1 on a 10 scale is still pretty big</div>
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<div>Enquiring <big><big><big><big><big>minds</big></big></big></big></big>
(who have nothing else to do) want to know.</div>
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<div>On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Dave Lockhart wrote:</div>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
February 25, 2013 8:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General
pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif;">How soon before we hire figure
skating judges?<br>
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-Mark<br>
Sent from my phone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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To: "General pattern discussion" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts<br>
Date: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 11:14 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="apple-style-span">This question of course relates to the </span><span
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style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: ArialMT,serif;">Annex 5B – F3
R/C Aerobatic Power Model Aircraft Manoeuvre Execution Guide, Section
5B.9...</span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ArialMT,serif;">5B.9<span
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif;">SMOOTHNESS AND
GRACEFULNESS OF THE MANOEUVRE</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ArialMT,serif;">"Concerns the
harmonic appearance of an entire manoeuvre. Ie maintaining a constant
flight speed throughout the various manoeuvre components, like in
climbing and descending sections contributes significantly to
smoothness and gracefulness. Radii performed very tight or very loose,
though being of equal size within one manoeuvre may be subject for
downgrading Smoothness and Gracefulness."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: ArialMT,serif;">If the radii
are very abrupt the maneuver would not be "smooth and graceful."
Similarly, if the radii are very loose the maneuver elements would
likely not be well defined (not graceful?). I think "very" is the key
word - beyond expectation, not normally seen, etc. Extending that
thought, I think this would be a uncommon downgrade.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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the obvious here...there are no technical criteria for what constitutes
"very tight or very loose" radii. The criteria are subjective.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Bouchard</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:13 PM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: black;">A
question on radius judging. Tight radius (or loose radius) manevuer
segments are subject to downgrade in FAI. What constitutes a tight
radius? Physically tight (in feet, for example), or tight (fast speed
through the radius giving the impression that the plane is pulling
excessive g's, however that is interpreted). A slow flying radius
could be extremely tight, for example the last radius at the bottom of
the triangle loop (135 degree pull) or figure Z.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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