[NSRCA-discussion] Beech and Goose don't fly well together..

Del R drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
Mon Dec 16 15:20:50 AKST 2013


Thanks for clarification. I still believe my friend who has seen Eagles at angels 30 though.. and he never had a strike either.
 
    Del 
 
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  From: tedsander at comcast.net 
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  According to Snopes:


  These photographs depict the aftermath of a mid-air collision between two small planes, a Beech 95-B55 and a Cessna 180K, over Tehachapi, California, on 16 January 2004. The Cessna was destroyed and its pilot killed, but the pilot of the Beech Baron amazingly suffered only minor injuries and was able to land his aircraft safely on a dirt airstrip. According to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) preliminary report on the accident:
  On January 16, 2004, about 1415 Pacific standard time, a Cessna 180K, N61691, and a Beech 95-B55, N555RD, collided about 6.5 nautical miles west of Tehachapi, California. The Cessna was destroyed, and its airline transport certificated pilot was fatally injured. The Beech was substantially damaged, and its private pilot received minor injuries. 

  The Beech pilot reported to the Safety Board investigator that, at the time of the collision, he was in a cruise climb. His altitude was over 5,500 feet mean sea level (msl) but less than 6,500 feet msl. Less than a second prior to the collision he observed the right landing gear of an approaching airplane in his 1 o'clock position. He then ducked in a reflex-like manner and the collision occurred. The Beech pilot observed a dirt airstrip near his location, and he made a precautionary landing.

  Read more at http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/birdshot.asp#vZjGCw3bBSHOVFtf.99

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  From: "Paul Lachance" <plachance at cox.net>
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  I would love to see the pics too. Thanks in advance. 

  On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Del R" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:



    I have had people I trust tell me they have seen Eagles at Angels 30. Didn't know birds come with O2 systems on them.. LOL.... 

        Del
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      From: Mike Miller
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      Got them thanks. Is it normal for a goose to fly at 11,000 ft. I really did not think they would be that high. I guess if your getting shot at you just keep creaping up. LOL

      Del R <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:

      >Sorry all.. I should have stated it more clearly.. Because they are high definition and the list has limits I thought it would be easier to send me a private and I would gladly forward it..  Why I included my "E" in the 1st post to facilitate. 
      > 
      >I will harvest those that replied so far and send them to you.
      > 
      >    Del 
      >
      >  ----- Original Message ----- 
      >  From: Mike Miller 
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      >
      >
      >  There were no attachments that I could find....
      >
      >  Del R <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
      >
      >  >Hi Ryan.. 
      >  > 
      >  >Separate strike. Occurred at 11 thou. Pilot injured but landed safely. Plane appears totaled.  As you know inches make a world of difference and never more apparent than in aviation accidents. 
      >  > 
      >  >Del 
      >  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
      >  >  From: Ryan Smith 
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      >  >  Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:25 PM
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      >  >
      >  >
      >  >  Del,
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >  If the images are what I'm thinking they are, that "goose" was actually a Cessna 180. The people in the 180 were killed. I can pull up the  NTSB report shortly. 
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >  Ryan
      >  >
      >  >  Sent from my iPhone
      >  >
      >  >  On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:07 PM, "Del R" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >    Knowing there are a few flying aficionados on the list I offer to share 3 HD pictures with you and a Baron and goose meeting at flight speed and one wrecked day for all involved. 
      >  >
      >  >    May contact directly  
      >  >     drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
      >  >
      >  >    Del 
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      >  Hi Ryan.. 
      >
      >  Separate strike. Occurred at 11 thou. Pilot injured but landed safely. Plane appears totaled.  As you know inches make a world of difference and never more apparent than in aviation accidents. 
      >
      >  Del 
      >    ----- Original Message ----- 
      >    From: Ryan Smith 
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      >    Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:25 PM
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      >
      >
      >    Del,
      >
      >
      >    If the images are what I'm thinking they are, that "goose" was actually a Cessna 180. The people in the 180 were killed. I can pull up the  NTSB report shortly. 
      >
      >
      >    Ryan
      >
      >    Sent from my iPhone
      >
      >    On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:07 PM, "Del R" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
      >
      >
      >      Knowing there are a few flying aficionados on the list I offer to share 3 HD pictures with you and a Baron and goose meeting at flight speed and one wrecked day for all involved. 
      >
      >      May contact directly  
      >       drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
      >
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      Sorry all.. I should have stated it more clearly.. Because they are high definition and the list has limits I thought it would be easier to send me a private and I would gladly forward it..  Why I included my "E" in the 1st post to facilitate. 

      I will harvest those that replied so far and send them to you.

          Del 

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Mike Miller
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        Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:50 PM
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Beech and Goose don't fly well together..


        There were no attachments that I could find....

        Del R <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:

        >Hi Ryan.. 
        > 
        >Separate strike. Occurred at 11 thou. Pilot injured but landed safely. Plane appears totaled.  As you know inches make a world of difference and never more apparent than in aviation accidents. 
        > 
        >Del 
        >  ----- Original Message ----- 
        >  From: Ryan Smith 
        >  To: General pattern discussion 
        >  Cc: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
        >  Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:25 PM
        >  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Beech and Goose don't fly well together..
        >
        >
        >  Del,
        >
        >
        >  If the images are what I'm thinking they are, that "goose" was actually a Cessna 180. The people in the 180 were killed. I can pull up the  NTSB report shortly. 
        >
        >
        >  Ryan
        >
        >  Sent from my iPhone
        >
        >  On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:07 PM, "Del R" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
        >
        >
        >    Knowing there are a few flying aficionados on the list I offer to share 3 HD pictures with you and a Baron and goose meeting at flight speed and one wrecked day for all involved. 
        >
        >    May contact directly  
        >     drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
        >
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        Hi Ryan.. 

        Separate strike. Occurred at 11 thou. Pilot injured but landed safely. Plane appears totaled.  As you know inches make a world of difference and never more apparent than in aviation accidents. 

        Del 
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          Del,


          If the images are what I'm thinking they are, that "goose" was actually a Cessna 180. The people in the 180 were killed. I can pull up the  NTSB report shortly. 


          Ryan



          Sent from my iPhone

          On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:07 PM, "Del R" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:



            Knowing there are a few flying aficionados on the list I offer to share 3 HD pictures with you and a Baron and goose meeting at flight speed and one wrecked day for all involved. 

            May contact directly  
             drykert2 at rochester.rr.com

            Del 
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