[NSRCA-discussion] Amnesty idea

Tue Aug 20 11:10:22 AKDT 2013

I, by no means, am saying that the current rule does not work or that it's
hard to get what you need.  What I am asking, however, is what is the con
to what is proposed?  Why don't we want to try to make it easier even if it
isn't hard now?  We've listed the benefits over and over again but no one
seems to want to say why it's no good.

I have always found it interesting that the folks that resist change and
want to leave well enough alone are already at the top percentage of their
class and have one, two or ten sponsors or finish in the top 10 at the
Nats.  What about the rest of the community?

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM, John Fuqua <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>wrote:

> Here is the rule:****
>
> *8.1.2: Exception: *Consideration will be given to requests for
> reclassification to a lower class for various reasons, such as disability
> or breaks from participation of several years. For a contestant to be
> reclassified to a lower class, the contestant must petition via email (or
> letter if email is not available) to the contestant's AMA District Contest
> Board (CB) representative explaining the reasons for the reclassification.
> The CB representative will forward a recommendation for
> approval/disapproval to the AMA District Vice President (DVP). The AMA DVP
> will concur/non-concur and forward the decision to the petitioner and AMA
> District CB representative with an info copy to the AMA Technical Director.
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> Note that the petitioner goes to his CB rep who actually makes the
> recommendation.    My DVP has always agreed with my recommendation and I
> see no reason why other DVPs would act differently.   All this is done via
> email so it should not take more than a week or two at most.  I always info
> the AMA Tech Director as well just to keep him in the loop.   ****
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> JohnF****
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> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *John Gayer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:01 PM
>
> *To:* mike mueller; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amnesty idea****
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> Mike,
>
> Thanks again for the loan of a very nice airplane for the Fat Lake Pattern
> Meet. Glad Russ was able to buy it, it will be a very good airplane for
> him.
> The contest was very well run by Bob Wilson and John Hoelscher and other
> members of the Peoria R/C Modelers. I had a great time flying, meeting new
> folks and hanging out at the field in Russell Shavitz' new RV parked in the
> middle of all that corn.
>
> As Scott McHarg has pointed out in this thread and we discussed during the
> contest, the rule change we proposed last year addressed the problem of
> being able to move down a class at the end of the year. Others have pointed
> out that there is a mechanism for doing this now. It involves petitioning
> the AMA for a change in class. There are two problems with this system. One
> is that there are some who quit rather than go through the process. Those
> flyers are lost to us for long periods of time and may never return. I know
> about that, I was one of them for a decade.
> The second issue is that the AMA VPs seldom(ever?) reject these petitions.
> They do not know the flyer and his abilities, may(or may not) do a bit of
> research, and then approve the petition. If they are always approved, what
> is the function of this process? Why should we waste the time of the DVP?
> Leave it up to the competitor to recognize that a move back one class would
> be good for him. Peer pressure will take care of  abusers - as it does now,
> not the AMA.
> John****
>
> On 8/19/2013 12:16 PM, mike mueller wrote:****
>
> At the Peoria contest this weekend we had the pleasure of having John
> Gayer from New Mexico attend and fly with us.****
>
>  We got into a discussion about ideas to grow the sport.****
>
>  One I brought up and it's nothing new is a one time only Amnesty period.*
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>  It would allow any flier who has been a consistent low placer in their
> class the ability to drop down at the end of a season.****
>
>  It seems clear to me that this really needs to happen and the residual
> benefit from such a program could very well help to get some guys back into
> the sport.****
>
>  What would it take to get such a program instituted? ****
>
>  What are the barriers that would stop this from being put into the rules?
> ****
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>  Is there a potential downside to this that would make it worse than what
> we have now?****
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>  ****
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