[NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

Fri Mar 16 07:19:41 AKDT 2012

Good point Derek, i will check to see.  thanks

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek
Koopowitz
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:45 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

Robert,

Does the 18mz RX have a high speed mode on it?  Can you go to the "normal"
mode on the RX and try it?  I was told by a good friend to swap to "normal"
mode on the 8 channel RX because I couldn't get the Jeti programmer to work
directly plugged into the RX to check pulse settings on the throttle.  When
I changed to "normal" mode it worked just fine - high speed mode never
worked.

-Derek

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Robert Green
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:42 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

Ed, I don't like it either I mat try a ferrite ring, as I like the telemetry
feature on the tx from the rx.  Anyone else using the 18MZ receiver seeing
any issues with the motor cutting out?

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Ed White
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:56 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

Robert,

The only way I can think of that this is a receiver problem is that motor or
ESC noise is being picked up on the ESC lines (any or all) and the 8 channel
Rx is somehow more tolerant of the noise or better able to filter it than
the other Rx.  I would be uncomfortable at leaving this at - I have to use
my old receiver.   

Ed

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From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Thu, March 15, 2012 10:14:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

Wait a minute. "The problem was with the receiver." doesn't quite cut it.
What was the problem?  

I'm glad you got the problem "solved", but you can't trust that receiver
until you identify the problem.  BTW, "I don't know" is a perfectly valid
answer, but you could save somebody else a lot of grief if you know what was
wrong with the receiver.

Ron

On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Robert Green wrote:

Well I think I found the issue with the Jeti and the Plettenberg.  The
problem was with the receiver.  I recently got a new radio, and installed
the new rx in the plane, and then the issue started showing up.  I even went
and borrowed a Jeti99Spin, to see if this would resolve the issue, but it
did not, so I started to think of everything that I had changed, and decided
to go back to my 8 channel receiver and voila, everything is back to normal.
Thanks to everyone for there input.  Feels good to have the problem behind
me

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Robert Campbell
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

My suggestion to limit throttle isn't to limit current draw.  It's to limit
the motor RPM's so the ESC can remain synchronized with the motor.  If the
motor turns faster than the ESC can handle, the motor will begin screeching.
I've only seen this on outrunners, never inrunners.

Rob

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From: Bob <mailto:bob at toprudder.com>  Richards 

To: General pattern discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:55 AM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

That was my thought. I don't understand why one would want to limit the
throttle to something less than full. Why not install a prop that loads the
motor less?

Bob R.

--- On Thu, 3/15/12, Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC
To: " General pattern discussion " <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Cc: "General patterndiscussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 12:15 AM

Limiting throttle does NOT limit current to the motor, in fact, it can cause
higher current draw.  All throttle does is vary the on vs off cycle during
which voltage is sent to the motor. 

Peter+

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On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, "Robert Green" <robcase1 at cox.net
<http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net> > wrote:

Hi Rob, the Static amps on the ground is 81 amps.  My throttle is limited to
85 percent.  Even changed out the speed controller and the same thing
happened.   Really wish i knew what was going on?

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Robert Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:18 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

Robert,

Which Jeti are you running?  Advance or Spin?  Just a guess, but all the
outrunners I've run require low timing advance and some require fixed end
points and the throttle to be limited to 70 percent or so.  Also, have your
checked your set-up on a watt meter?  Sometimes our set-ups pull more
current than we were expecting and the ESC over current protection kicks in.

Hope this helps.

Rob

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:19 PM

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC

Is anyone out there running this combo.  Went flying today, and had some
issue with the speed controller cutting out when i was setting up for my
approach into the pattern.  I was pulling up and advanced the throttle to do
an reverse cuban eight to get into my pattern, when the motor suddenly quit.
I pulled the throttle back and advanced it once again and the motor came
back it did this on every flight except the first flight where i had no
issues whatsoever.  my setting are high timing for the motor, low cut off
voltage, acceleration high, 

thnaks in advance 

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